Nevertheless, RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC (ONCRPC) before either GNOME or KDE existed. Heck, the earliest versions predate Linux.
Given the combined functionality offered by PolicyKit/Polkit and dbus, I'm beginning to think that FreeDesktop has succeeded in re-inventing the virtual filesystem (albeit poorly). -Jude On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Gravis <rin...@adaptivetime.com> wrote: > > But I wonder why people have developped dbus instead of using a > ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic middleware? Yes it > exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ. > > D-Bus has existed for about a decade if not more. As far as I can tell, > ZeroMQ > has existed for a few years. Also, D-Bus is written in the fashion that > matches how the GTK API which is a C API. libdbus has lots of language > wrappers. > > D-Bus is more for RPC than IPC which is an issue as there is no standard > in POSIX for RPC. > > --Gravis > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote: > >> >> Le 20/02/2015 13:48, Martijn Dekkers a écrit : >> >> I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and >>> above. However, there's one thing here, >>> there are more people running servers than people running linux on their >>> desktops, so IMHO devuan should first focus on the servers. >>> >> >> I strongly believe that if we manage to pull together a kick-ass, >> up-to-date, and rock-solid server build that does not require systemd, we >> will see serious uptake from many, many users. >> >> >> Guys, I don't think there is contradiction between server and >> desktop. There is a difference in the user base and installed applications, >> not in the OS. dbus and udev/eudev/mdev/vdev/ are just useful services >> which make life easier if they are not poeterized, but could remain >> optional. I think most desktop users expect these services, but they >> understand it is not the top priority of the devs. >> >> By do-it-all desktops, I was targetting Gnome and KDE, not Xfce. It >> is too bad that xfce4 is now contaminated, But in my installed Wheezy >> servers and desktop, it is not. I've no complaint against it. Is there >> anything new in the Jessie version, appart from infection? >> >> Concerning dbus, there is a need for publisher/subscriber >> communication on the desktop. But I wonder why people have developped dbus >> instead of using a ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic >> middleware? Yes it exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ. >> >> Didier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > >
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