On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 21:25:08 -0300 hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote:
> On 07/15/2015 01:40 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: > > > > Well, in my personal opinion devuan should not focus on new users, > > as nor debian does. > > > > For new users there are plenty of distros, most notable ubuntu, and > > we should not compete with it. > > > *** I STRONGLY oppose this view, and you already know why: there are > plenty of ways to build upon a minimalist base and provide an easy > "upgrade" from total newbie to guru in a snap with preseed files, > tasks, "seeds", or blends. I agree with Franco's view, and I think if we all came in with the same definitions, you would too hellekin. When he said "new users", I don't think he meant intelligent people who just haven't used Linux before. I think he meant the type who say "Oh, my, I can't learn anything, the computer should just understand what I mean and do it. My computer is an appliance just like my toaster, and I just want it to do its job. Oh, my, I can't change a config file, I can't even use an editor, I'm not a programmer. Oh, my, I can't remember names of programs, so I can't use a hierarchical menu. I need something like Unity or Gnome3 or Windows 10 to find the way for me. Those people never used Debian in the first place. They used *buntu or Mint. I think what Franco was saying is that we should neither dumb down nor complexify up Devuan to accommodate the clueless. I *don't* think he was saying to make it ridiculously difficult like Gentoo, Funtoo, Arch and Slackware. SteveT Steve Litt July 2015 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng