On August 8, 2015 4:12:23 PM CEST, Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> 
wrote:
>Riccardo Boninsegna wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Dave Turner
>> <dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>> various XFCE irritations for normal people made me do a full debian
>jessie install with systemd and all. I soooo wish I hadn't!
>>> XFCE doesn't work at all.
>> Devuan Testing installs systemd by default, but it's easy to remove
>> without breaking anything,
>> and after installing pm-utils XFCE works perfectly on my computer!
>>
>Wait, what????
>
>I thought a primary motivation for Devuan was to NOT install systemd by
>
>default.
>
>Miles Fidelman
>
>
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Actually devuan install sysvinit by default in pid 1… anyway systemd, not in 
pid 1, still present cause of some dependencies not yet updated in devuan. 
Starting from beta 1 systemd will not be installed by default
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nextime
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