On August 8, 2015 2:39:15 PM CEST, Dave Turner <dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk> wrote: >If the developers of devuan are paying a lot of attention to the >various >discussions on here about init systems, audio, getting rid of >pulseaudio >and other 'pet-hates' then it slows down the implementation of >Plan A:- >get rid of systemd. Preferably all references to it such as >systemd-shim >will be gone too. > >If things such as vdev _have_ to become part of devuan to make that >happen then so be it. > >Only when there is a proper release of devuan so that anybody who >wants >to can build a working devuan server for use in a production >environment >is Plan A complete. > >And then all those 'wants' and 'pet-hates' and 'can XFCE be the default > >desktop' become relevant and the developers can decide on their >priorities. > >Meanwhile, the Alpha release works, feel free to use it. I have been >using it but various XFCE irritations for normal people made me do a >full debian jessie install with systemd and all. I soooo wish I hadn't! >desktop-file-utils, thunar and other packages don't install properly >but >do actually work. >At every update upgrade cycle dpkg complains about them not being >configured. >XFCE doesn't work at all. >There were the same unconfigured problems with mate, I won't install >gnome or kde so I used twm (it is a good job I am so old I can remember > >when twm was about all there was!), but now my old iMac and me are >happily working with ctwm. >What fun! (But not for the normal people that have to use my computer) > >DaveT > > >_______________________________________________ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
All those changes will not slowdown release as they will enter in devuan, first in ceres and then in ascii, only after jessie release. -- nextime _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
