-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Am Mi den 12. Apr 2017 um 16:58 schrieb Steve Litt: > I have no knowledge of the origin of this thread, probably having to do > with my .procmailrc /dev/nulling certain people. But I have a very > clear message about this thread's subject: There's no place in Devuan > for init system agnosticism if such agnosticism includes a tolerance > for systemd. > > Once installed, systemd makes it 50 times harder to install other > inits. And even though there may currently be Debian > package-manager-foo that can do it, there's never a guarantee that will > survive. > > Systemd actively sabotages the ability to replace it, whereas no > other inits do that (that I know of). It would be stupid of Devuan to > allow systemd into their software.
Not only that. With including libsystemd0 in every package dependency, it makes them factually unable to build. Take for example openssh, I provide patched packages on my server that remove the patches of debian that lower ssh security for just gaining a bit more comfort. However, in the recent days it was even not possible anymore to build as it build depend on libsystemd-dev that is starting to depend on systemd itself. But this libsystemd-dev dependency is not needed at all. Other think, did you ever try to deinstall libsystemd0? It will deinstall many other packages; at least on ceres. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.ch> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAljvKEQACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qy46gv/SrQLyD5rjaHZXEspIFSNrUHRXndMaDNxlx5sC6DscRLr7dBybTn2kpZF gmhXWF03pA7RRmz6GAhX+CeisH6NkrwyXnSxkEOpz/4mIBivOG/Yqz7lkHq17N1O FL1yeSyprmumRKAdIg3oTuCj82wZLDshYx0/PAUpE3EmOoBPUmqM4SWIRuDKVGPG 0kR3VHZNdzvDgwcc0RqmwhS7wA8ZrO75owEXGZYugFhUahLgt4jq6buT5NjCC3ZL 6xrZDfM7bULYvvuPK8EB7QhgZswzuxJiI0hRpJvA4uIqYXS2YcBZfFxVOvpA7JwU JIk5XYepAV40H0H70BsMv9NYlSl4v//gID9iJutQURDUqhYhcODPkosg42N07pmv 3MuTt4hTReHKYttKUSLpr9MFEZmTXf0iHxY4cKTjTFbMZrnt0Y2urozMDA8IQtow dYycn7N4TipfgwFjCKmktIL8RWlTMHdUk4khDCU5YP2dj+RR6pRM1dhM++7VHsjX Kxy4N+mZ =HGj5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
