On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 23:46:28 +0200 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:22:33AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Oct 2017, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > > > > > Steve Litt writes: > > > > Does anyone here actually use redis? I looked it up, and to me > > > > it looks like dbus on steroids. An in-memory data store > > > > accessible by lots of different applications. What could > > > > POSSIBLY go wrong? > > > > > > I've used in several contexts, it's great at its job and a joy to > > > use. > > > > Same here, its a core part of many software projects, not only web > > based but also on embedded systems and micro-service related. > > > > One of its authors, antirez, is an old friend and coding made of > > some of us here. Redis is heavily inspired by minimalism, > > simplicity and UNIX principles since its inception. We will contact > > upstream so they notice the fact the Debian maintainers are > > removing a support which is provided upstream, since redis does > > pack scripts for sysvinit that should be left in place. > > In that case, could you have someone from the upstream file a bug? > If that support is provided, such a regression is not warranted -- > and a bug report from upstream carries a lot more weight than from a > mere user. > > > This episode is again of great shame on Debian maintainers, but it > > should be addressed by upstream. > > Note that, while it might be tempting to "just fix it in Devuan", > this would be a great duplication of effort. A fix in Debian proper > affects all derivatives, and thus applies to orders of magnitude more > users than Devuan currently has. It would also avoid forcing admins > to use an inferior init/rc system. Last I heard (which was about 2 years ago), Devuan's plan was to apply changes to Debian distros for some time, but slowly migrate to a completely different distro. If I remember correctly, one reason for becomig independent was to avoid Debian sabotage like we're appearing to see now on redis. Devuan has no responsibility to Debian users. If Devuan and Debian can cooperate, that's cool. But if Debian puts landmines in Devuan's path, ____ em! SteveT Steve Litt October 2017 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng