On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 09:33:30PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > John Hughes' sole function on DNG is to say, in many different ways, > "systemd isn't so bad." Given that systemd being bad is the > foundational belief that created the Devuan project thus the DNG list, > he knows he's just making trouble. He's a troll. Don't feed the troll.
Systemd is bad, but dropping the pretense that following the needs of _one_ particular stone-age PDP install is sound design is not bad. Of course, as always our dear Lennart does it wrong (it'd be much better to follow Hurd instead and use /bin /sbin /lib), but it doesn't make split /usr without an initrd any better. Today, any system where you can realistically install a general-purpose distribution has multiple GB of disk space. There's no gain to put / and /usr on separate filesystem, all that you need is /boot (or an EFI partition). In the last case I'm aware of where someone tried a stock system with a split, Maemo, the /usr split was deemed inadequate and they instead decided to move most stuff to /opt while stuffing the usual places with symlinks -- adapting packages enough to have / capable of booting would require too much work. There's too many obscure use cases, and too much complexity to bother using the old way. There are two cases: * a regular simple system. No fanciness like split /usr, encrypted LVM on RAID6+0+1 over iSCSI over wifi. No initrd needed. * complex. Just plop anything you need into the initrd. I don't get why you'd want to keep moving things around on the real system if you can isolate it into initrd. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Laws we want back: Poland, Dz.U. 1921 nr.30 poz.177 (also Dz.U. ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ 1920 nr.11 poz.61): Art.2: An official, guilty of accepting a gift ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ or another material benefit, or a promise thereof, [in matters ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ relevant to duties], shall be punished by death by shooting. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng