Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 schrieb Arnt Karlsen:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:55:36 +0200, Dr. wrote in message 
> <201810252355.36418.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:
> 
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > I have a problem with Devuan on s new RPi W Zero: Raspbian (latest
> > image) boots fine, 
> 
> ..does our own
> https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_ascii/embedded/devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armel_raspi1.img.xz
> work for you?

It kind of works. The serial console is silent. Serial over USB with 
"modules-load=dwc2,g_serial" does not work at all. WiFi misses firmware - so 
does not work. I think there are suttle differences between "0/1" and "W0" that 
are taken care of in raspbian but not in devuan. Most likely it's the firmware 
and the kernel. I had simillar problems with RPi3+, it also needs the latest 
firmware + kernel and des not work with the devuan rpi3 image.
 
> > system updates work. Then I try to get rid of
> > systemd (replace raspbian sources with devuan sources). Installing
> > devuan-keyring works. Installing "sysv-rc" "sysvinit-core" and
> > "sysvinit-utils" throws several segfaults. "reboot" segfaults, too.
> 
> ..the Raspian people calls their BCM2835 hardware arch armhf, while 
> we and Debian calls it armel.  Our armhf might work on RPi 2 and 3, 
> but will fail on RPi 1 and Zero.  

Now this explains a lot - especially why the same procedure applied on RPi3+ 
worked.

> ..you will need to add the armel arch and replace all Raspian's armhf
> binaries with our armel binaries, and probably throw in some nefarious
> magic, to get in working your way. 

All magic didn't work. Burned my stock of black candles, did other unspeakable 
thing, no use (The cat suvived! Would not touch the cat!). Migration from armhf 
to armel would work like a charm, if there was not the package manager that 
complains about not matching version numbers in armhf/armel and consequently 
not configuring the package. I have found no way to persuade that beast to 
ignore that pesky package suffix when the version number matches :-(

Now I try to transplant kernel+firmware from raspbian to devuan imag, let's see 
how that turnes out. I would be happy if I git a serial console working ...

Nik


> 
> 
> ..devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armel_raspi1.img.* works fine on my RPi1, FWIW.
Don't doubt that. But RPiW0 has USB-OTG direct from the cpu, RPi1 has a usb 
hub. That little difference turns out to be quite big. And the connectors don't 
match ... *sigh* ... but I need that USB-OTG, that's the reason for RPiW0 ..

Nik



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