On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 11:14:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > AFAIK the customizations concern mainly the graphical interface, the > presence of some drivers specific to the new device and a particular > selection of applications
Sounds to me that fixing regressions in a base distribution is out of scope for their project. You can't expect everyone to spend their time on a particular part -- they care about a new GUI and drivers, not about how to start daemons. Yeah, systemd is a huge problem, but for a GUI system with no real customizable daemons it doesn't really matter, and things that used to work did get broken by systemd integration" on non-systemd systems. So phone makers pick what -for them- works. > I'm curious to know how close it's going to be to a classic laptop > GNU/Linux installation. For instance, will it have a *syslog daemon > with logs in /var/log? And what about cron, at, locate etc? Maybe not > out-of-the-box, but I expect the packages for these services to be > installable form the repos. I really hope it's not going to be as far a > departure from the classic distribution as Ubuntu Touch (aka Ubuntu > Phone) was. It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer. For that you want Gemini or GPD Pocket. The input device is not fit for any real hacking. You at most connect to it from the outside. > I'd love to try upgrading it's PureOS to Devuan too. It shouldn't be > too hard, as the Librem5 is designed to allow a number of distributions > to run on it. Or at least it was, I can no longer find references on > https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ of alternative distributions that > will be installable on the Purism5. Crossgrading might be not trivial; vendors of such phones tend to customize them in a way that makes running an off-the-shelf system require re-doing a ridiculous amount of non-upstreamed changes. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Have you heard of the Amber Road? For thousands of years, the ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ Romans and co valued amber, hauled through the Europe over the ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ mountains and along the Vistula, from Gdańsk. To where it came ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ together with silk (judging by today's amber stalls). _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng