On 2019-09-30 18:34, Steve Litt wrote:
It's their job to receive letters from the public

Who does "they" refers to, exactly?

and any half way smart business values feedback.

Out from any idealized vision, the question would be: what is the incentive?
From a pragmatic observation of the real world, I would quote those few words from golinux:

On 01/10/2019 02:13, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
still they persist.

Big companies persist on their agenda, whatever the (fiducial) cost as long as (fiducial) benefits outweight them.

Steve, you talk about values; companies talk about money.

systemd sells well, more & more distro fall to it. Actually, less & less major Linux distro have been available out-of-the-box without systemd as init system (+ dependencies, where the real pain hides & lies).

Why would Red Hat, ie IBM would see that another way than beeing good news? Hegemony, lock-in, monopoly: (tech) giants have been using these tactic for ages.

TL; DR
systemd is good for IBM's business. Moar revenue, moar profit. The rest is cosmetics.

Now. How/Where does you little email inserts itself into that plan?
Nowhere.

Your idealized, desperate wish to force the way things go round & round makes you wish that will have any impact. I would call that being blinded.

As told before, and hinted by many including myself, any energy wishing to fight this nightmarish systemd hydra is to provide alternatives, and promote them to the general population for the greater good.

You energy & wishes are good, this is fuel. I hope you will understand the somewhat knee-jerk reactions you (will) get about writing emails to IBM are not against you, but mere incentives to use your fuel to promote/make Devuan (better). Heck, suggesting it to a colleague who seek for a distro to try/use is a start, installing it for some family members that will use office software for accounting/small business needs, are common possibilities, and that coupled with explanations is spreading knowledge.

No-one has any idea on how this war will end. The risk being, systemd being tightly coupled with GNU/Linux, its envisioned eventual self-induced demise from bloating & controlling every system component will hurt GNU/Linux reputation. I guess the long-term strategy is to say & repeat (& repeat & repeat) systemd is a mere component, yet propagating in it like cancer, of GNU/Linux systems, showing proof-by-example distro exists without it, are stable, maintainable, and remembering people *choice* is the eternal fuel for freedom.

Companies have no values. You have no "money" talking point. IBM won't listen. IBM does not care about anything but money. Business do not care about anything but money. Stop wasting your fuel.

Bernard Rosset
https://rosset.net/
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