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On 29/12/19 12:01 am, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 28/12/2019 07:01, Steve Litt wrote: >> So, if we insist on assisting Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, and their >> ilk, and all their users, by incorporating DMARC > > Really, it's surely not a matter of willingly helping them. It's > more a matter of survival at all in a world where they carry a > significant proportion (possibly a majority but it's not certain) > of the world's email and where they re-make the rules to suit > themselves. Just be glad they still support SMTP at all! Sadly that is too true. They screw up greylisting, they screw up SPF and they screw up DMARC. And to make matters worse, you can easily block IP addresses and IP blocks of bad email servers.... unless it comes from the rotten lot as above (including Apple and Microsoft). I see plenty of forwarded junk coming through my server from Apple and it's a real pain point. I just wish everyone would stop using those rotten service providers when it comes to email :( A. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTJAoMHtC6YydLfjUOoFmvLt+/i+wUCXgdZ/AAKCRCoFmvLt+/i +0ywAPwK9LnPkzeVNaatCEloqyHDEFDAcO08W+mGMhJdFAN1EQD/VuBBBnlmFUxv HGebU11GuFOusgjdz6YHbhrr2GwK8cU= =eaLf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng