On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 12:09:01PM -0700, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:01:52 +0200 > Alessandro Vesely via Dng <dng@lists.dyne.org> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sat 26/Jun/2021 01:10:08 +0200 Patrick Bartek Via Dng wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200 > > > Alessandro Vesely via Dng <dng@lists.dyne.org> wrote: > > >> After I did a system upgrade, I couldn't mount an USB key any > > >> more, until I manually installed udevil. What happened, > > >> dependency changes? > > > > This is one of the "gotchas" that can happen when running an "in > > > development" version. As far as why it happen: could be a number of > > > things. Most of the time, it's because a dependency, like udevil to > > > spacefm, become mismatched version-wise. That is, udevil has become > > > "too old" to work with spacefm, and the upgrade process uninstalls > > > it. Try "full-grade" instead of just "upgrade" to get the newer > > > version of the dependencies when "upgrading." In fact, this is the > > > recommended procedure when running an "in development" or testing > > > version. > > > > > > I tried apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards, but it didn't bring up much > > staff. Later on, I found that some software that I don't use very > > often was removed from my system. I had to install anew Inkscape and > > MariaDB server. > > Without knowing the particulars of how you installed Chimaera or how > it's configured, it's going to be difficult to diagnose your problems. > However, the main problem is that you are using Chimaera which is still > in development, and that can introduce problems. Although, usually, > they correct themselves when the developers do the next round of > "fixes." > > Did you do a clean install or upgrade from a previous version? IIRC, > you dist-upgraded from a Debian distro, but I've forgotten which one. > This can and does introduce problems even if done correctly. > > Post your /etc/apt/sources.list and anything that is > in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, too. If they are not set up properly, > that can cause problems. > > > I remember many release changes done in two steps, apt-get upgrade > > followed by apt-get dist-upgrade for the rest. This time it seems > > that the system forgot about removed packages. Is it so because > > chimaera is not yet released? > > How did you remove those packages? > > No. Chimaera still being Testing shouldn't be a cause.. > > When using Testing, don't use apt-get upgrade, but only apt-get > dist-upgrade or apt full-upgrade. This is recommended when > running Testing instead of Stable. Upgrade by design won't install major > upgrades to apps, system files, etc. which can occur with Testing.
How does it distinguish between an upgrade and a major upgrade? -- hendrik > After Testing (Chimaera) becomes Stable, then use only apt-get upgrade > or apt upgrade. There are times when dist-upgrade needs to be used > to "fix" something, but we'll deal with that later. > > B > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
