On 4/3/20 9:28 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:

the economy requires faster, easier takedown of domains. when a delegation is
revoked due to bad behaviour by a registrant, it has to die _everywhere_
almost immediately. not sporadically depending on which (above vs. below) NS
RRset was cached, or on what TTL it had.

the overwhelming majority of newly created domains are used maliciously, and
die quickly after short, brutal lives. we have to make them as easy to kill as
to birth.

I agree with you, Paul, on most domains being bad; and that takedowns are often effective. However this is actually one reason not to prefer the child TTL, since the bad actors will simply crank up the TTL on their NS set to the max.

That said, I still want to prefer the child TTL. The parent delegation is not authoritative, it's just a referral. That was the rationale for not signing it with DNSSEC (something I violently disagreed with at the time, and still do).

The child should have the right to determine its own fate. This is especially true when it comes to preparing for a redelegation, but there are other reasons of course.

Regarding resolver operators who don't want to obey TTLs that they think are too short, they already have options to set minimums that work for them. That combined with the resolver otherwise obeying the child TTL makes everyone happy (and follows the protocol).

Doug
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