On 2014-02-12, at 11:28, Marc Blanchet <marc.blanc...@viagenie.ca> wrote:

> - I like better that approach than the previous draft registering many tlds.

The previous draft (at least for some of the TLDs) was anchored in the reality 
that changing the name already in use was not practical, e.g. there's a 
sufficient deployed base that uses DNS-like names ending in ONION that 
proposals to use things like ONION.ARPA were non-starters.

I think therefore that the ALT draft addresses quite a different problem: the 
choice of DNS-like (but not DNS) name structure for new applications that we 
don't know about yet.

I suspect that there would be fewer roadblocks involved in choosing an anchor 
ALT.ARPA than ALT, since ARPA is under the control of an IETF family member 
while the root is controlled by distant cousins. If I'm right that this 
proposal is for future, as-yet-unknown applications, then the choice of anchor 
should be arbitrary; it feels in that case like the path of least resistance is 
the right one.

> - I would prefer an IANA registry under .alt with "expert" review policy.  A 
> namespace with possible collisions (past or future) have very low value to 
> me. names are leaking in various contexts, so collisions would be bad for the 
> protocols and deployment using that .alt tld.

I think that if we are talking about DNS names, we already have mechanisms to 
ensure uniqueness.

If we're not talking about DNS names, then the only consideration we really 
need is to avoid collisions with the DNS. We can do that by reserving ALT (or 
ALT.ARPA, or whatever), specifying that it's a reasonable domain to sink 
locally (RFC 6303) and perhaps providing some kind of AS112++ sink for leaks to 
the wider network (draft-ietf-dnsop-as112-dname).

(An AS112++ sink for a domain is probably easier to realise for ALT.ARPA than 
it is for ALT, since the root zone is maintained using specific registry 
machinery that would require changes to support DNAME, I think, and the track 
record suggests such changes might take a long time to action.)

I don't see an obvious reason to insist on IETF restrictions on an ALT-like 
namespace if the point of the namespace is to be available for use outside the 
IETF. If restrictions existed (no matter how simple we imagine they were to 
follow) the likely outcome is that ALT would either be abused (used without 
registration) or ignored.


Joe

Attachment: signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

_______________________________________________
DNSOP mailing list
DNSOP@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Reply via email to