On 11.2.2015 17:08, Evan Hunt wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 03:44:31PM +0100, Pier Carlo Chiodi wrote:
>>> Wild idea: Could it be solved by adding more information to SERVFAIL 
>>> answer?
>>
>> a draft was proposed with this very topic, but it's expired now:
>>
>>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hunt-dns-server-diagnostics/
> 
> I'd be happy to revive it, especially now that it's explicitly within
> dnsop's remit.  I don't recall anyone objecting to the idea; it just
> wasn't high-urgency and I had other business to attend to.
> 
> It's important that diagnostic signaling only be used for human
> troubleshooting purposes and not as input to a policy decision, such
> as "ignore DNSSEC failures due to expired signatures" or something,
> because the diagnostic messages would be trivial to spoof.

I generally agree but the data format itself should be easy to parse: My main
goal is to make diagnostics as automatic as possible. (Yes, it will be very
interesting when we start considering active attacks.)

In other words, I do not think we can prevent people from doing crazy things
just by obscuring format of diagnostics data. I'm sure somebody will try to
parse free-form string 'signature expired 1 week ago' and do some decisions
from that :-)

-- 
Petr Spacek  @  Red Hat

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