-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 07/02/2015 10:05 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: > > You're right. To underscore, it's because of the groups that > don't engage, and have no responsibility to do so, that the IETF > has to "defend" itself. > >> It wouldn't take much work > > Keep in mind that the IETF isn't a "thing", it's a collection > of people volunteering time. What I mean to say, not much work, > but it's like trying to jump out of the ocean back into a boat. >
I could not agree more with Str4d. Processes are not at fault: aren't we having a rough consensus about the Internet as an open society? For your information, draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00 was published on *November 14, 2013* [0]. It has been submitted to 4 revisions to date, without counting the newly split drafts at the request of DNSOP list members into a draft per system (.bit [1], .exit [2], GNS [3], and .i2p [4]). As a final comment to help you catch up with "the process", the .alt draft [5] first appeared on June 06, 2015, and the original mention of .onion was removed from its fifth revision following my request to confirm that .onion was not covered by this draft (per the draft author.) I think you know this because your comments were also included in this version of the .alt draft. I am very surprised that you did not read the P2PNames draft, and hope you will now read the 5 drafts that came from it (I include .onion [6] to the 4 mentioned above). Regards, == hk P.S.: As Christian Grothoff mentioned, I was interested in making these 5 drafts leanier, following the .onion model, and bring the (common) details into an informational RFC instead. If you think 5 drafts are too much reading, that might help, especially as there's a lot of redundancy from one to the next. [0]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-nam es/00/ [1]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-bit / [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-exi t/ [3]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-gns / [4]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-i2p / [5]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/ [6]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVlUYyXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFQ0IyNkIyRTNDNzEyMTc2OUEzNEM4ODU0 ODA2QzM2M0ZDMTg5ODNEAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9zpIP/3QJF7Eni4RrzwAn5U3ITnqo vsv/cTcVYTm2EybW3mFaY/UeE868HyHrsF0mXOIxwm/B6lFCAKA47B5m+zvqhRwA I1euxD9L/KOoB/8//sE+JLzKffiwGPaI2MY6r3Wiqb5ivijy1sVVuwr8GV2QdvoD Nvflcnu+iXX3IQJpZTDxrrmKjYIdgXxCxKPKYquf4kE3cMWv/5sEolYvTH1eHlLV MBGzzKZntE487u0RGEiym0teE0xV3U09Ln7cpppMmKrrKs3UkcXfqFbB+fhKHP+N J54Pif+ndiMeBAcYuoj4/OXtT+x1r3rOR8PLgUvdlYfBsJpjOlREAVqDP/c9R1sW PWkSkrBmo1hTkQv5ZPt/EBc6Fiovq3k0ptnO3GXn4XOT1udXarlAXpZm7KvzY7Sc DG6Q2EXM8//w4jwfC3mBt+jFEskijEh6G2sNo0z8lBsgyU9EZuSkUGMtT3c1nLaX jnV0Qd90tpD9tP/dGk/U4S8V4Wg9fhBxlDbMYiEFRttaGdL4MGFXoSDcHLuqDTTX QAtDx2kvR/yhLJY5OHO1qGvTjixcfMz82COrRCEsczH4psjS/iRziT1DlGX2aMQr 6kSOPq0EtabdfYwsHSETfh4KC1DfzzIEVlvFen3hs9sIrj631HACoZfMLNYcjbmH vNO8NaLUMJsIIi9eniQ2 =0u6r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop