Hi,

I am interested by the .a to .z, .alt and .external discussion.

The goal here from the non-DNS people seems to be to have DNS type labels (thus 
URI's)
which are known to the recursive and authoritative resolvers to be outside of 
DNS.

If it is known that .a to .z are such; why where they not used?  Perhaps they 
should be 
publicized a little more.

However, I far prefer the single declaration of a TLD for use by these non-DNS 
systems.

Additionally, we a challenge with the certificate issuance for .onion, and as I 
have
commented, it is a very large install base, and asking them to change their TLD
with little time in which to act seems churlish.  Their application (Tor), and 
those of
the GNUnet etc. are entirely within the remit of 6761.

So, I propose are few things:

1. accept that the submitted proposals are fine and approve them (.onion, .gnu 
.zkey etc).
2. approve .alt (or whatever is decided)
3. close 6761 saying that all future things must use whatever is decided in 2.

Thus, 6761 is honored for what is was, a future path is created, and dnsop dont 
have to do this again and again.

Hugo Connery
________________________________________
From: DNSOP [dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of David Conrad 
[d...@virtualized.org]
Sent: Friday, 17 July 2015 13:30
To: Paul Vixie
Cc: dnsop
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion 
Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard

Paul,

On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Paul Vixie <p...@redbarn.org> wrote:
> yes, but not with .ALT, which is a politically desirable gTLD name, and
> which allows the connotation of "alternate DNS". i suggested .EXTERNAL
> because nobody will ever want it as a gTLD and because its connotation
> is unambiguously "not DNS".

Given many of the names that were applied for, I would be quite hesitant to 
make assertions about what people would or would not want (or what would or 
would not be politically desirable) for new gTLDs in future rounds.  After all, 
we were talking about .FOO in this thread...

> seriously, i wouldn't object to warren's draft if the string he chose
> hadn't been .ALT.

I suspect any name chosen would have proponents and opponents based on their 
own assumptions and biases. Looking at the technical requirements, we'd 
probably want a string that would be unlikely ever to be requested and which 
wouldn't be significant/controversial to any particular subset of the 
community. A quarter-baked idea: perhaps instead of a single label that (may or 
may not) has significance of English, we could go with up to 26 'non-DNS' 
labels, i.e., .A ... .Z?

Regards,
-drc



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