> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Shane Kerr <sh...@time-travellers.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> RFC 7344 left out the problems of deletion and addition because they
> were scary.
> 
> I think that the draft-ietf-dnsop-maintain-ds document is quite clear
> about deleting DS records, and I think it makes sense.
> 
> However, in the case of adding DS records, to me the document is less of
> a specification than a discussion about possible approaches to the
> difficult issue of when to accept the CDS RRset. This discussion is not
> necessarily a problem, because that's all we have today.

Shane thank you for starting this discussion, 
We could have written 
“After observing CDS records for 15 days or 2 resigning cycles which ever is 
longer, accept them and upload DS” 
Is that  better ? 
It sets expectations 
But there is the case Parent happens to know the operator of the domain and via 
out of band knowledge can be
sure the domain is operated a that party. In this case the upload should not 
suffer any delay. 

So yes I agree having well defined policies is a good idea, but we need help 
and guidance in 
making the text better and figure out 2 or 3 reasonable policies, to recommend 
to people 

> The reasons that I questioned whether this draft should result in a
> standards-track document is because of the ambiguous and vague way that
> DNSSEC is enabled with CDS/CDNSKEY.
> 

I get your point, and kind of agee with it (have not asked my co-editor what he 
thinks)

> I do think that RFC 7344 should be standards track.

Great, 

> 
> To be clear, I'm not strongly opposed to standards track, but I am not
> sure what it means to have a standards track document that doesn't
> actually tell me how to inter-operate or even really how to do anything
> concrete. (This might just be my IETF ignorance, I admit!)
> 

I think having this on standards track is better than not. 
If there is bad advise in the document we can always replace it with better 
RFC. 

Olafur

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