On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 10:13:09PM +0000,
 Adrien de Croy <adr...@qbik.com> wrote 
 a message of 316 lines which said:

> TLS was designed to provide data integrity and security, but not in
> the face of MitM attacks.

You're playing with words here. It all depends if you use TLS in the
strict sense (just the protocol) or the wider one (with
authentication; note that authentication is a official part of the
spec, in section 7 of RFC 5246, it is not delegated to some other
RFC).

> Google's push for https everywhere has in our experience provided
> significant incentive for MitM deployment.

It seems an argument straight from the attackers: "we are forced to
improve our attacks because the users - the bastards, how do they
dare? - improved their defenses".

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