In message <20170204020711.gd67...@mx2.yitter.info>, Andrew Sullivan writes: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 09:47:08AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > Also the ICANN's rule for signed TLD delegation for new gTLD is so > > that delegations from those zones can be signed. > > I don't think that it is up to this WG or even the IETF to make any > determinations about why the names community decides the policies it > does for the root zone. But in any case, there are two relevant > policy issues here: > > 1. We are not the authority for delegations -- signed, unsigned, > emtpy or otherwise -- from the root zone, and if we are going to > seek any kind of entry in the actual DNS root zone then we are > talking about that in entirely the wrong forum. We maybe should > complete the alt draft saying what we want from it, and then > insert that into the correctly-shaped receptical at ICANN. > > 2. Unfortunately for us, right now, there _is_ no such receptical > at ICANN. For there does not appear to be an ICANN policy for > delegations from the root for special uses. There is a policy for > ccTLD additions, but we are not a country. There is no current > policy for new gTLDs -- the previous round closed, and there has > been no determination of whether a new round will happen nor what > that round might entail if it happens. If you want to shape those > rules, I believe there are some discussions going on within some > constituencies at ICANN. > > > signed. There is no reason for ICANN to object other than religious > > arguments. Technically they don't have a leg to stand on. > > I'm sorry, but it's not religious. Other communities have rules for > establishing their IANA functions. If we want them to respect our > rules for the IANA registries for which we set the policy, then we > need to respect theirs for the registries for which they set the > policy.
Given there are no rules for this type of namespace we need to respect the reasons for the other rules which I did but you choose to completely cut out of the reply. This isn't a registry. It's a non-registry. It is different. Mark > Best regards, > > A > > -- > Andrew Sullivan > a...@anvilwalrusden.com > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop