I personally would rather see a single media type with a transport parameter than creation of a distinct media type for each transport (UDP, TCP, QUIC, …).

On 03/21/2018 09:36 PM, Davey Song wrote:
Hi folks,

I just submit a updated version of dns wireformat over HTTP. This draft has been adopted as the dnsop wg document for quite a while before DOH.  The original intention of this draft is to explore the possiblity of DNS over HTTP(s) use cases and demonstrate its capacity as an experimental draft. But the draft lacked enough specification on HTTP requirement and context at that time. Since DOH later was setup focusing on developing https as DNS transport protocol. So I updated this draft as a a special use case of DOH which served as DNS proxy.

I would like to ask comments and advice in dnsop and doh wgs mainly two quesions: 1) (for dns people) Does this proxy use case sounds useful as a IETF experiment document . 2) (for HTTP people) Is a media type "application/dns-tcpwireformat" acceptable specially for this use case. We also consider to introduce an optional parameter to existing "application/dns-udpwireformat" MIME in DOH document, because the two media type carries the identical message body (the udp dns wireformat) in DOH request  in proxy use case. We need suggestion here.

Thank to Tim and Paul Hoffman to bring this draft alive.

Davey

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A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http-02.txt
has been successfully submitted by Linjian Song and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http
Revision:       02
Title:          An Proxy Use Case of DNS over HTTPS
Document date:  2018-03-21
Group:          dnsop
Pages:          6
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Abstract:
   This memo introduces a DNS proxy use case to tunnel DNS query and
   response over HTTPs using DOH, a newly proposed DNS transport.  This
   is useful in some situation where DNS is not working properly and DOH
   is not widely available for many stub-resolvers.




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