Hi Libor,
On 04/11/2022 12:15, libor.peltan wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to understand this, but not sure if I do. What I see is:
"The definition of bailiwick (in-b, out-of-b) is messed up and any
further use of it in normative documents will probably lead to
ambiguities. The proposed tactic is to stop using it and define a new
term (in-domain) which means the same but it's definition will be
precise and relevant in current state of DNS."
If my understanding above is matching reality, then (note the
implication) I agree with the proposed tactic.
Indeed, your understanding is correct that is the intent of the question
to the WG.
Best,
-- Benno
Dne 03. 11. 22 v 22:44 Benno Overeinder napsal(a):
Dear WG,
With the DNSOP rfc8499bis interim in September, we had the action
point to send two questions to the DNSOP WG to find consensus on the
bailiwick and glue discussion.
You can find the interim meeting material here
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2022-dnsop-02/session/dnsop and the recording of session here https://youtu.be/wY7-f40lDgU.
We will send two questions to the WG, in two separate emails to keep
the discussion separate. This email is the first question to the WG
that addresses the definition of bailiwick.
Questions:
1. Move Bailiwick to historical.
1a. During the interim, there was a (feeling of) consensus to drop a
formal definition of "bailiwick", but keep a historical definition
(how it was interpreted by) of "bailiwick". Also do not define and
use the term "in-bailiwick".
Suggested terms to use are "in-domain name server" and "sibling
domain domain server", as defined and used in
draft-draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional, section 2.1 and 2.2.
[The latest draft of glue-is-not-optional does provide a definition
of sibling domain name servers, but it does not really provide one
for in-domain name servers. That would be easy to fix.]
1b. Does this also mean changing the definition of "out-of-bailiwick"
to a more historical definition as well? Or do we still need a
term for in-domain name server, sibling domain name server and ...
(alternative for out-of-bailiwick)?
Is "unrelated name server" a term that can be used?
Thanks,
-- Suzanne, Tim and Benno
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