TCP, you already have worse problems, like DNSSEC doesn't work.

Triggering TCP is still not good, even if it all works. It is still
better avoiding by not stuffing the APEX. So I think we still want
to leave something in there.

In view of the wide use of DNSSEC and DoT and DoH, I think the argument that triggering TCP is bad stopped being persuasive a while ago. (Don't we hope people sign the DNS responses with the tokens?)

The only somewhat plausible argument I see against stuffing the apex is that if people are sloppy, they might invent tokens that could be confused with each other.

But people have been putting tokens at the apex for years and I have never, ever, heard of token confusion. "It's ugly" isn't going to fly. I would take the whole thing out unless there is a technical basis I've missed.

$ host -t txt cisco.com
cisco.com descriptive text 
"workplace-domain-verification=Uhv7QPQ22nbuD3vG0jspf7R6LruYoS"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=r-K1CIdXkgRWxZstUHtVyM2UfwflnGgr4AR9_Qhk28Q"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=WmdDuSXl3PMb-48qcY6VUbW9kzNPe46zn9uDwgB2wX0"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=UwP1ncfiphlFs+wRx8wIBSXDScwNL7Jrw7tq2rnYz3+9T5+Md9eTDRgNPCikxtOx"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"intercom-domain-validation=8806e2f9-7626-4d9e-ae4d-2d655028629a"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=V3t2K3dvr9fcd1YWwwanSmebEOO_UNTP06HR2_gUO5M"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=lW5eqPMJI4VrLc28YW-JBkqA-FDNVnhFCXQVDvFqZTo"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=AYTzL6wSVsW0IdyQp7gwv6lwtHdpMATnb8QriqyJ0niAaZct9kdSlXvfuE4GcoxU"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"fastly-domain-delegation-e9a758d22183504af2d5ab4d9a9853da-20210127"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"duo_sso_verification=AxenLdoqIXzjl2RJzE1BlOfkawDbDFlnbyvjAt8vcjKHBkvYwEMySDRk5QmBd66v"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"fastly-domain-delegation-z9slsbDdX0-368365-2021-05-14"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"duo_sso_verification=sKMGaTln2vmQuKwaE4hKtTEY1UYn2JzAaxSZzGjkgJrKuZChN344mhIptyczoNBA"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"adobe-aem-verification=www-devint-cloud.cisco.com/24859/366173/9418f2a2-ef45-4788-9de9-91c7d19038b9"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"c900335b8b825859b51473b9943a3880ae795df47426483b0a67630377a902f5"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=7JYRlY9ijBijTJ0YS5a8/58DU7OfKAHMYRufcy0TC57j2mNceH8rg4ajRzErc22Z"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"\\200atlassian-domain-verification=blI4HshP3kJO1PV8nZFlncJ6TwVviYYxBNhkMi9wIa9DTxUjY4p1GO7O5SjiioyT"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"mZvHszGlmDhvPOUKL+6JMiw/VtckyOMKjcw1PLcjYowxM2PVLX2xG0ZSgdHRm8HXfaaGR2pMvhIrBX1tX3aKRQ=="
cisco.com descriptive text 
"adobe-idp-site-verification=c900335b8b825859b51473b9943a3880ae795df47426483b0a67630377a902f5"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"onetrust-domain-verification=20345dd0c33946f299f14c1498b41f67"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"stripe-verification=217ec5836204d6fc0d236f5751724029c9b39530696e322a862b2f2f5fe75529"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"sending_domain731003=25e34fadea88da7e64f0fab1e32d094f1f1e0fb2b97622deac2521f7a2c5b2bc"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=672RcADvt8BPqsb9gCN2ZC5DoTAhUT8abC1blYKQxi/MHMaGoA/BuvjFMaWRtgd7"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=qPS9ZkoQ-Og1rBrM1_N7z-tNJNy2BVxE8lw6SB2iFdk"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"identrust_validate=ZMG4IyVxNwmt3vKpPoFmxSuWW+4fMc/M4kCCnBaPUMYv"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=2ldosmg0o2Mhpyok1OISaSGygWU9zk6fLLWdoczXtHap9luhaHA/pwEaj2Tk6ROK"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"docker-verification=4c56633a-274e-4858-88a2-2aeceffcfd66"
cisco.com descriptive text "926723159-3188410"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"facebook-domain-verification=qr2nigspzrpa96j1nd9criovuuwino"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"wiz-domain-verification=af241e6396696eedf1b361891435f6b21bdebb5621941d99279298c076b5bf5f"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"duo_sso_verification=IYdVUIrb2L95JVejSXV3hfsJVDZolQKKOPBztlD6TIgfCRSKeMuf8WgbQuFLD4aL"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"duo_sso_verification=pG21Oj5OPCxRPsWXsfbauWT9oua82cKtYUPAmsQvovKNq3xqWEcsEMEAhtXy8AFr"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"adobe-aem-verification=www-idev-cloud.cisco.com/24859/366204/1b990ef7-ff88-4938-bdd9-8458cc152f57"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"miro-verification=53bf5ccd47cb6239fe5cf14c3b328050dd5679ac"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"fastly-domain-delegation-im0VCGY5X0axEEmhXJb2-347911-20210310"
cisco.com descriptive text "apple-domain-verification=qOInipPgso3W8cmK"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"facebook-domain-verification=1zoxo8z7t013gpruxmhc8dkerq47vh"
cisco.com descriptive text "v=spf1 redirect=spfa._spf.cisco.com"
cisco.com descriptive text "SFMC-o7HX74BQ79k7glpt_qjlF2vmZO9DpqLtYxKLwg87"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"amazonses:mX+ylQj+fJAfh9pr03yIR7YvjKZ1bOo5ABegqM/5pvI="
cisco.com descriptive text 
"duo_sso_verification=6Q7pJwSZ3damWHBcB8TNd9I5oduLRAFDDhip2pTFaa3QoIZtZnCgzjyZr5teSOWS"
cisco.com descriptive text "MS=ms35724259"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"amazonses:QbUv5pPHGQxRy1vKA0J7Y/biE9oR6MTxOTI1bZIfjsw="
cisco.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=9MlQU9MMQ1jHLMUkONKe6QzZ-ZIGRv0BCD1_rY1Zdmc"
cisco.com descriptive text "docusign=5e18de8e-36d0-4a8e-8e88-b7803423fa2f"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=Gt2demeKDLmtNc9kPZhaAHFA37DEIcmFGUd6LARvB4yjLG70s3WZhaJJ15y499sb"
cisco.com descriptive text "asv=ac90e11808e87cfbf8768e69819b1aca"
cisco.com descriptive text "docusign=95052c5f-a421-4594-9227-02ad2d86dfbe"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"fastly-domain-delegation-w049tcm0w48ds-341317-20210209"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"notion-domain-verification=7sz4S3LLtNIHZpYsgTTgOcRLlLrJ5JrmIgVcdRtGi1X"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"h1-domain-verification=rix5vuxntVpma4rTL2DbE3FDrrPjedhnRaqaHvghyod3egmZ"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"mixpanel-domain-verify=2c6cb1aa-a3fb-44b9-ad10-d6b744109963"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"pendo-domain-verification=c9796502-c914-4e50-892d-e426f2ac68e9"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"pendo-domain-verification=5995ba9c-9bf8-43d8-9e5a-309856760011"
cisco.com descriptive text 
"amazonses:7LyiKZmpuGja4+KbA4xX3lN69yajYKLkHH4QJcWnuwo="
cisco.com descriptive text 
"pendo-domain-verification=c9d2fba1-7d94-4cf9-a6fb-310883c8bb15"
cisco.com descriptive text "QuoVadis=94d4ae74-ecd5-4a33-975e-a0d7f546c801"

$ host -t txt google.com
google.com descriptive text "apple-domain-verification=30afIBcvSuDV2PLX"
google.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=TV9-DBe4R80X4v0M4U_bd_J9cpOJM0nikft0jAgjmsQ"
google.com descriptive text 
"atlassian-domain-verification=5YjTmWmjI92ewqkx2oXmBaD60Td9zWon9r6eakvHX6B77zzkFQto8PQ9QsKnbf4I"
google.com descriptive text "docusign=05958488-4752-4ef2-95eb-aa7ba8a3bd0e"
google.com descriptive text "v=spf1 include:_spf.google.com ~all"
google.com descriptive text "docusign=1b0a6754-49b1-4db5-8540-d2c12664b289"
google.com descriptive text 
"onetrust-domain-verification=de01ed21f2fa4d8781cbc3ffb89cf4ef"
google.com descriptive text 
"webexdomainverification.8YX6G=6e6922db-e3e6-4a36-904e-a805c28087fa"
google.com descriptive text 
"facebook-domain-verification=22rm551cu4k0ab0bxsw536tlds4h95"
google.com descriptive text 
"globalsign-smime-dv=CDYX+XFHUw2wml6/Gb8+59BsH31KzUr6c1l2BPvqKX8="
google.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=wD8N7i1JTNTkezJ49swvWW48f8_9xveREV4oB-0Hf5o"
google.com descriptive text "MS=E4A68B9AB2BB9670BCE15412F62916164C0B20BB"

$ host -t txt apple.com
apple.com descriptive text 
"miro-verification=2494d255c4c50b1e521650a0659cbf3fa08b0072"
apple.com descriptive text 
"facebook-domain-verification=n6cqjfucq6plswmtfbwnbbeu1qiq3v"
apple.com descriptive text "v=spf1 include:_spf.apple.com include:_spf-txn.apple.com 
~all"
apple.com descriptive text 
"adobe-idp-site-verification=6bd5e74c-a3a0-4781-b2e1-e95399b5e11c"
apple.com descriptive text 
"webexdomainverification.8C462=b728ec3f-dfc9-42f9-92cb-9ba8853cbee8"
apple.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=8M6XjQCzydT62jk8HY3VXPAG-nKDllTRV-JpA3-Ktyw"
apple.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=L5kkMdiFI8npvb6KlHui84fJaCw5G64DWhaDRIAT4_c"
apple.com descriptive text 
"google-site-verification=zBSq1mG5ssu2If-C17UAz_MzSZDcx03MVxmeDwMNc5w"
apple.com descriptive text 
"cisco-ci-domain-verification=6f3bfb849796a518061f8e8c4356f687a138502d86db742791685059176547dd"
apple.com descriptive text 
"Dynatrace-site-verification=7d881a7c-c13f-4146-9d27-2731459e2509__iqls0105tagglcsaul0m16ibrf"
apple.com descriptive text "77a4a6de-da14-449c-83c4-85366e0f55f9"
apple.com descriptive text "apple-domain-verification=X5Jt76bn3Dnmgzjj"
apple.com descriptive text 
"cerner-client-id=22dd1d8a-5e8b-4e1e-80ef-39bcdfd42798"
apple.com descriptive text 
"cerner-client-id=ce3abf18-ee87-43b9-9927-9eb24b4bac4a"
apple.com descriptive text 
"ValidationTokenValue=77a4a6de-da14-449c-83c4-85366e0f55f9"

Regards,
John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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