prev-up-next-navigation (widget-style) top/toc-navigation (maybe this should just be good image? or a unique font)
These two should be of the same style IMHO. They are the in-document navigation widgets.
well again i dont 100% follow you here. if by in-document you mean: all these pages belongs to
"about", and all these pages belongs to "download" etc then
i can understand you to some degree.
the idea of this is similar to sites having certain colors
or looks for a particluar item in their menus, no?
only we use - luckily - the same colors across menu items.
i think that from a webusers point of view it is more
confusing than gaining.
thomas mentioned these top|toc shouldnt be obstrctive and i agree,
but any widget i guess will be a bit obstructive.
Now I don't follow you. The only thing I was saying is that I think prev-up-next and toc-top widgets are serving a similar role, so it'd be nice to have them look alike.
please no images for text, if later on we want to add another link next to TOC/TOP we may not be able to create the image of exactly the same style. Though I do think that we want to add a small images < and > indicating the prev and next in the box [foo | up | bar]. I guess 'up' could be replaced with a neat arrow up with ALT="^" for text browsers.
i did try an arrow up instead of the word "up". the problem with arrow up is that it points up and thus some might think it points to top of current page.
I agree.
I think the biggest problem is taking the underlying of links away. The colour is less of a problem. It's not really needed in the menu, since it's usually a graphics menu, so users are used to it. Not so for other widgetry on the site.
well i just like the idea of underlining links "out of the house" (eg http://www.perl.com) to visualize for the users they are leaving the mod_perl site maybe we just have to compromise somewhere?
I don't think this is a good idea. We are going to have many internal links in the documents. They should be clearly visible. If you look at the current guide (http://perl.apache.org/guide/), I've removed the underlining in the index.html and each document's Table of Contents, because it's obvious there that all the items are links and having them underlying makes things look worse. However inside the text it should be very clear whne things are links, when they are just <CODE></CODE> and <i></i>.
Remember that perl.com is also a commercial company so they may want to realize the user that beware, you are about to leave our site and go into unexplored, unsafe grounds. Not we, why do we want to distinguish exiting points? A user can always click back. Adding to the fact that it's going to be very clear once we finish the look-n-feel-the-same design.
I agree though that we may want to mark specially outgoing links in the menu, e.g. some small icon?
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