Allan has sent me his new design's source in private because he has problems with connectivity, so I've rendered it for him and placed here:
http://www.apache.org/~stas/preview/allan/


My comments to Allan's email are below.

>>let's see what you've got so I can correlate your comments to the real
>>design/content.
>>
>
> should be all here, attached as allan_version_1.zip.
> (how do you tar, isnt it just like: $ tar -c somedir ?)

ok, but getting the patch to the cvs version will be match better. It's
as simple as doing:

cvs diff > patch

if you didn't add any new files. It's very easy to do most of the things with cvs.

> btw the introducion of the cbox <div> to fix the invisible
> bottomline of the main content box has introduced another
> problem at the top in netscape 4+


please send the problem (snapshot?) to the list if possible. Thanks!


>>>1) a new logo (this is just because i never liked the >>>original - i am not a graphic artist).

neither do I :)

but I do like the current logo. :)

>>>2) the menu area is slightly wider, but also different
>>>looking. i know that you, (thomas), disagree on this one but
>>>like i told
>>>you (thomas) i really think this one is cool.


why wider is better?


>>>3) the breadcrumb does not have a background color - i >>>cannot tell why but i think it sits very harmonic like that. >>> >>>4) the boxes (content and menu and ad) colors are black.


good


>>>5) i have kept my original prev|up|next widget but this time >>>it is litterally with those three words. besides it is more narrow >>>and right-aligned and more or less fixed, which is convient >>>when navigating.


neat


>>>6) on index-pages i have nicked the right-arrow to subsitute >>>a bullet to sort of keep a look & feel


I like it.


>>>7) pages with table of contents still have a bullet next to >>>the lines.


that's good.


>>>8) the download "widget" probably should be an image for >>>cross-browser reasons (now it >>>is positioned <div>-tags). i have centered it for whitespace >>>reasons. i dont have any strong opnion on this at the moment >>>but it looks okay to me in this form .


it shouldn't stick out though, it's a helper widget, not the point everybody should concentrate on.



>>>9) the tail (or footer) contains currently only an old >>>mod_perl logo and the tt-logo and the last modified stuff in >>>a bar. i dont want to "advertise" for valid 4.0 html and >>>css. (not all our pages can currently be guaranteed valid >>>always). i do obviously think we should try and get the most >>>correct html/css whenever possible.


no, we will have all our pages validated and fixed before the release.


>>>10) changed Home to "mod_perl home" (we definetely should >>>have another title for the fromtpage i think)


I'll fix this functionality.


>>>notes: >>> >>>a) the designs is filled with html-tables, sorry but i dont see >>>another way and i dont want to compromise good looks because >>>of sad browsers. >>> >>>b) also a few gifs, im not sure if we decided to not use >>>this format?


I think yes, since we cannot use png's yet.


>>>c) the base font is verdana fixed at 11px
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>working and looking fine (to me) on:
>>>
>>>macintosh 9.2 netscape 4.79
>>>macintosh 9.2 netscape 6.2
>>>macintosh 9.2 internet explorer 5.0
>>>macintosh 9.2 opera 5.0
>>>macintosh 9.2 icab (not good because of bad/no support for stylesheets)
>>>
>>>macintosh osX internet explorer 5.1
>>>
>>>windows 98 internet explorer 5.0
>>>
>>>
>>>--------------------
>>>i have some minor troubles unfixable from where i sit:
>>>the toc-bar at /products/products.html will not go to a 100% width.
>>>there is a general tranalation problem at least at /docs/2.0/user/index.html
>>>




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