Allan has troubles again with Internet connectivity, so here is his new design and comments:
http://www.apache.org/~stas/preview/allan_24_1/


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From: allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


what is new? maybe too much, but it still resembles thomas' original design and ideas i think.


1) there is a complete new top located for a possible future logo of some similar sort as the one shown. this is nice because it seperates logo(s) from everything else and as a side-effect it aligns the top of the header with the top of the menu.


2) the menu is the same but the text is left-aligned (i still prefer centered. i agree with your arguments for left-aligness but my eyes like the centered version, it sort of makes the left-area more at home on the page, now it is a little bit like it want to go out of the page (to the left)).


3) the breadcrumb and header are now more integrated into each other, i think i like it but maybe its "overdesigned"? nah, i think it peps up some of all the docu-stuff on our pages. i mean it quite "dry" material we are working with.


4) then there is located some whitespace area for search pdf|src prev|up|next

search and prev|up|next are done as widgets (so all inline
naviagtion looks similar) and pdf|src are just gifs/text
currently which also looks quite good to me.


5) the words "Table of Contents" now clearly acts as a starting point for the content which itself is now colored (very light yellow) and boxed. on index-pages the "teaser"-text is unboxed. i kinda like that, but it could easily be implemented into the yellow box-area.


6) the footer is now similar to the breadcrumb/header-bar. i need to implemet the tail just above this footer (the one with the tt-logo and html-valid-logos etc)


notes: ------------- - a lot of tables used. - the prev|up|next widget needs attention, i cannot fix it in the templates. i know how to in html (it is just a matter of removing whitespace between tags in the html-code, something perlish like this: s|</a>\s+|</a>|igs). - more ads/books need implemented - need to re-code the lists on subdir/index.html-pages (those with the right-arrow). this is now a html-table. thomas did this it another much cleaner way. - maybe look into code pre-blocks for ns4+ (is it an issue??)






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