At 01:04 PM 04/30/02 +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
>Jonathan, this is a corporate BS. 90% of the market is good enough for 
>the company. It's not good enough for us. We are not a corporation 
>trying to enrich itself. We are an information provider, and no 
>discrimination based on OS or the choice of browser is acceptable. Yes, 
>it may look bad in the older or/and buggy browsers, but it should be 
>*usable*. If someone is stack with NS4 for whatever the reason is, what 
>you are saying is f**k that user, let him figure out how to solve his 
>problem... oops, you just lost a mod_perl user and his "word of the 
>mouth", something that shouldn't happen. On one hand you say we need the 
>site look more appealing, so mod_perl will be more wide spread, on the 
>other hand you don't care about those not living on the cutting edge, 
>what's the result?

But, trying to make a site be 100% validated, 100% style sheet validated,
designed with CSS and few tables for modern browsers and work for older
clients all at the same time is a tough task.  Something has to give
somewhere.

And as Allan's last few posts showed, even my Win98 and IE5 looks
differently than his Win98 and IE5.  Enough to drive someone crazy.

Just wait for mod_perl 2.0 to come out and people complain that they can't
use 2.0 features with their mod_perl 1.12. ;) 

The site has been working fine for NS4 for a while.  Like I said, maybe we
can go to a trimmed down style sheet for NS4 that doesn't cause it to crash
and use the @import trick to load it for NS4 browsers.

Or go back to the style sheet a few days ago, as I think it was working
then.  The problem, as I saw today, NS4's crashing is not consistent, and
that might not be all of NS4's fault.  (I have a graphics program on
Windows that wont's start without first minimizing all my open windows.)

>Most likely Allan's suggestions of using tables for formatting were the 
>wisest ones and would have saved a lot of grief.

I think I was in that debate, too. ;)

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Bill Moseley
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