At 11:27 AM 05/03/02 +0800, Stas Bekman wrote: >Allan has prepared a new revision for you to review: >http://perl.apache.org/preview/allan/dst_html
Thanks Allan! NS4.0 still crashes. Not sure what was ever decided about that. NS4.0 also has large very large fonts (the main sidebar perl.apache.org nav menu overflows into the content area). Still seems like we should be using @import or mod_rewrite and use different style sheets for NS4. Two sheets to maintain, true, but probably easier than trying to get one sheet to work for all clients. Mostly, you can take Jonathan's comments x 2. Overall, design wise things are fine. Seems like minor tweaks mostly, and I can live with that, but if I had to decide, overall I'm -1, but again, these kind of minor tweaks could be debated for months, so it's not a big issue for me. Yet, some things are now broken by this update. The wife's test without any discussion: -1 >* download widget is now small images that sort of continues >out of the headerline. -1 I feel like that's one more design element to detract from the simplicity, and not sure what functionality it adds. >* headerline leftside is emphasised with the >fading/sparkling effect [this looks even more cool on search >results i think] >* headerline is smaller height-wise >* apache feather implemented at leftbox >* header floats with menu-top Comparing: http://perl.apache.org/preview/allan/dst_html/docs/1.0/guide/getwet.html http://mardy.hank.org:5000/docs/1.0/guide/getwet.html I think it's just a matter of style. In this group, I think Jonathan and I have similar design ideas. Not everyone agrees as these are personal opinions: The new design removes white space. Some may feel like it's a waste of the screen to have white space forcing people to scroll. Of course, we have no idea how big each user's window is. I think that white space makes the site lighter to look at and thus more comfortable to read, and therefore more functional. The main menu has been moved down, and the content moved up. So the "perl.apache.org" is on the same level as the title. Also with the larger "perl.apache.org" font then it's really on the same strength as the main title. Design wise, it's not giving hints where the reader's eye should go. Second, the sparkle is cool, but now we have a header that has a collection of design elements. Imagine a paragraph with a mixture of font families. Too busy. Again, all minor points, but if you want comments, well there you are. >* changed the menu-boxes slightly so their headers look >slightly seperated from the box. >- this was done only because when you click the first >menu-item it looks bad up to the perl.apache.org title. I never noticed that before. I'm -1 as it doubled the number of elements on the left side. More noise. >* seach box on left slightly more compact and now look the >same [more or less] in all browsers >pleae note that the small search-changes of course are not visible. >thanks +1 I was wondering why IE was displaying so much space around the input field. >* link colours/styles >- all links in lists are non-underlined and underlined on hover >- changed the red color in the class/rule for 'more' to #993333 >instead of 'red' [if we stick to 'red' it should be '#ff0000' IMO] +1 >* camel gif >- put it slightly more to the right to align with the nav-widget Hard to notice any difference without side-by-side comparison. >* frontpage >- changed the qoute style as i cannot find a suitable way >that fits all browsers (take it as inspiration). i dont >think we should use the float trick, we only write 2002 ;) Too bad italics look so bad. It looks a bit weird as if it's a slightly different font. Maybe that's the way the smaller font is forced to scale? >* search results >- changed the <ul>-type indention with <div>-tags to avoid >problem in ns4. the divs are also more controlable I'm not sure what problem you are referring to. But in NS4.0 search form doesn't work as well as before. The input bar is now the wider than the width of the screen, the fonts are bigger and the <li> bullet points are showing. In NS4.0 I see no difference in the search results themselves, other than they now extend past the left edge of the window due to the input field being huge. >- changed the <dl> so that this it also is non-underlined by >default and underlined on hover. I don't see that change. -- Bill Moseley mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
