Howdy,

Great.

You mentioned in the first email you would be uploading it when finished,
it will be a welcome addition.

Best wishes,

Drew


On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:32 PM 驿窗 <class...@163.com> wrote:

> Sorry, my mistake.
>
> In the Simple-Chinese version, I will choose CC-BY v4.0(no GPLv3).
>
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
> Yichuang驿窗
>
>
>
>
>
> At 2019-05-05 07:38:20, "驿窗" <class...@163.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your reply~
>
> In China, the awareness of copyright is not very strong in some areas. For
> example, many people do not think that things like piracy are serious
> problems. Even if they probably understand the importance of copyright,
> they will ignore this in their habits.
>
> In China today, the public's copyright awareness is developing at a high
> speed. In this development process, what kind of copyright agreement is
> used to actively and efficiently guide the public's copyright awareness is
> something that needs to be considered.
>
> This topic may require a lot of communication to discuss. It doesn't
> matter, because the Chinese version is ready now, I need to upload as
> soon as possible.
> *I will use the same copyright agreement as the English version in the
> Simple-Chinese version(GPL3/CC-BY4,not CC-BY-SA4)*. In this way, everyone
> can benefit from the book first. In the future, we will look for
> opportunities to exchange ideas about copyright.
>
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
> Yichuang驿窗
>
>
>
> At 2019-05-04 20:38:00, "Drew Jensen" <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Comments in line
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 3:38 AM 驿窗 <class...@163.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply~
>>
>> Maybe I didn't make it clear in the email.
>>
>> ------First------
>> The agreement statement of the document:
>> *“**This document is Copyright © 2018 by the LibreOffice Documentation
>> Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute it and/or modify it
>> under the terms of either the GNU General Public License
>> (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
>> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>), version 3 or later, or the
>> Creative Commons Attribution License
>> (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/>), version 4.0 or later.”*
>>
>> ( Note: *Creative Commons Attribution License = CC-BY *)
>> ( Note: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike = CC-BY-SA)
>>
>> According to the statement, we can distribute the document only under the
>> license of CC-BY 4.0 : *Creative Commons Attribution License** (**version
>> 4.0 or later).*
>>
>> So, the first thing is, changing the license to the only agreement of  
>> *Creative
>> Commons Attribution License** (**version 4.0 or later**) *is ok.
>>
>> Then, the distribution behavior under the term of the license of *CC-BY-SA
>> 4.0*, is in line with CC-BY 4.0 ( *Creative Commons Attribution License*)
>> requirements.
>>
>> So, I think we can distribution the document only under *CC-BY-SA 4.0.*
>>
>
> I would say, strongly, no that is not allowed nor desirable. Precisely
> because it restricts the rights passed on the a consumer of the work.
>
>
>
>> ------Second------
>> Why change the agreement?
>> Without prejudice to the interests of the distributor, CC-BY-SA 4.0
>> respects the original author more than CC-BY 4.0:  *Creative Commons
>> Attribution License** (**version 4.0 or later)*. I think this is the
>> reason why the wiki page choose
>> CC-BY-SA(instead CC-BY).
>> And, I think that the best way to respect the original author is to
>> choose CC-BY-SA instead of CC-BY.
>>
>> Sometimes, in some places, CC-BY is not rigorous enough.
>>
>
> Well, I could ask what places those are. But I would also guess that
> 'those places' are why CC-BY and not CC-BY-SA was selected in the first
> place.
>
> Again, this is just my opinion.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Drew
>
>
>>
>> I hope that when the Simple-Chinese version is distributed later, it will
>> be able to fully include the English version of the original author
>> information and how it will be distributed.
>>
>> ------Third------
>> What I mentioned in the email is to change the Simple-Chinese book's
>> license, NOT the English book's license.
>>
>> In my Simple-Chinese version book:
>>
>>    - The contents of the copyright are exactly the same as the original
>>    English version, including contributors (current edition and previous
>>    edition), no changes.
>>    - And, the copyright page number is the same as the English version:
>>    number 2, after the cover page.
>>    - And, using the same font size, the same font type, the same font
>>    color, and the same page layout as the English version book.
>>
>> ------Fourth------
>> Done. The above is my plan.
>> But before the distribution, I want to ask the documentation team member
>> or original author for advice.
>>
>> ------------
>> So, can I choose CC-BY-SA4.0 instead of GPL3/CC-BY4.0 ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and best wishes,
>> Yichuang驿窗
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2019-05-03 20:34:13, "Martin Srebotnjak" <mi...@filmsi.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> you cannot delete the GPL3 license (or change a license, even if it is
>> very very similar), as the previous iterations (now parts) of the text were
>> published under those terms and conditions. Unless you get direct approval
>> from *all* the authors of those previous versions (published under those
>> two licenses), you cannot do that yourself.
>>
>> Lp, m.
>>
>> V V pet., 3. maj 2019 ob 14:36 je oseba 驿窗 <class...@163.com> napisala:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm translating the LibreOffice Getting Started Guide 6.0 from English
>>> to Simple-Chinese, and I will finish the translation work and upload the
>>> Simple-Chinese version book(Getting Started Guide 6.0) in this month.
>>>
>>>
>>> Before upload, I want to change the License to CC-BY-SA 4.0 (Refer to
>>> the bottom right corner of this link:
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page)(and here CC-BY-SA4:
>>> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ ) in the Simple-Chinese
>>> version book, and, I will delete the GPL3 and CC-BY4.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>> yichuang驿窗
>>>
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