Thanks, Rafael.

Regards,
m.


V V tor., 19. okt. 2021 ob 19:03 je oseba Rafael Lima <
rafael.palma.l...@gmail.com> napisala:

> Hi Martin,
>
> It seems you're right... all the strings I checked so far haven't still
> been corrected on master.
>
> Tomorrow I'll publish the fix for the strings you mentioned.
>
> Regards
> Rafael
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 1:36 PM Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Olivier,
> >
> > as I wrote, these errors are in the master, they were on October 15, four
> > days ago (that's the po files I used for my analysis).
> >
> > The ones you fixed are other errors of the same kind that I reported
> > earlied (and then you asked me if I find any more to report here).
> >
> > So - all today reported ones are in the master unless someone changed
> > master in the last few days.
> >
> > Lp, m.
> >
> > V V tor., 19. okt. 2021 ob 16:14 je oseba Olivier Hallot <
> > olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> napisala:
> >
> > > Hi Rafael
> > >
> > > Some of these embed were already fixed 2 weeks ago
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://git.libreoffice.org/help/+/336a1a866e9b84a929e9d4403564e37947a0eba3%5E%21/
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > > Em 19/10/2021 10:46, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> > > > Hi Martin,
> > > >
> > > > I'll take care of fixing these issues on master.
> > > >
> > > > I was responsible for introducing some of these errors... Now I see
> > that
> > > > this is troublesome for translators and future help pages won't have
> > > these
> > > > embedvars.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know whenever you come across issues like these.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Rafael Lima
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:34 AM Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>   Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> for some time now I notice that help writers keep using embedvars to
> > > >> simplify their work. These not only make help unreadable for
> > localizers
> > > >> (and thus prone to errors in localization), but introduce errors, as
> > the
> > > >> use of embedvars in sentences is not allowed for languages with
> cases
> > > (like
> > > >> Slavic languages).
> > > >>
> > > >> I urge online help writers not to use embedvars, even if that means
> > some
> > > >> more spelling out of function and command names. Also, please do
> > include
> > > >> this warning to any wiki or other documentation for future help
> > > >> contributors, *in bold*.
> > > >>
> > > >> I collected a list of all errors I have found so far (it refers to
> > > master
> > > >> as of October 15). My list is based on an assumption (which might
> not
> > be
> > > >> correct) that it is OK when an embedded link is used standalone, as
> in
> > > >> /helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po:
> > > >> #. LDkTk
> > > >> msgid "<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_timer.xhp#TimerService\"/>"
> > > >> But the assumption might be wrong for some languages and even mine,
> > > since
> > > >> we are not aware what the referenced string spells out like – this
> > form
> > > >> requires nominative case, but maybe the original string is not in
> > > >> nominative form ... There are plenty of those strings as well,
> > sometimes
> > > >> appearing as the last sentence in a help file string, as a reference
> > at
> > > the
> > > >> end of the help content paragraph.
> > > >>
> > > >> The list includes several occurrences where embedvars are either at
> > the
> > > >> start or end of the string, but do not use a space before/after the
> > > rest of
> > > >> the strings (I added the red comment note to those).
> > > >>
> > > >> Whoever will be fixing these errors in master, please contact the
> > > original
> > > >> authors of the erroneous strings to warn them about these errors, so
> > > they
> > > >> stop doing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lp, m.
> > > >>
> > > >> ***
> > > >>
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared/03.po*
> > > >>
> > > >> #. YwSXj#: lib_ScriptForge.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """lib_ScriptForge.xhp\n""par_id1001623412767893\n""help.text"msgid
> > > >> "To learn more about how to create and execute Python scripts using
> > > >> the <literal>ScriptForge</literal> library, read the <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_intro.xhp#title\"/> help page."
> > > >> #. ZzngK#: sf_intro.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """sf_intro.xhp\n""par_id31623411828158\n""help.text"msgid "Visit
> > > >> <embedvar
> href=\"text/sbasic/python/main0000.xhp#pythonscriptshelp\"/>
> > > >> for more information on Python scripting using %PRODUCTNAME."
> > > >> #. CHr5n#: sf_session.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """sf_session.xhp\n""par_id751626817335715\n""help.text"msgid "Read
> > > >> the help page <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/sbasic/python/python_locations.xhp#pythonlocations1\"/>
> to
> > > >> learn more about where Python scripts can be stored."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po*#. CWMJG#:
> > > >> 03030303.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """03030303.xhp\n""par_id491610993401822\n""help.text"msgid "The
> > > >> <literal>Timer</literal> function measures time in seconds. To
> measure
> > > >> time in milliseconds use the <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_timer.xhp#TimerService\"/>."
> > > >> #. Yy5Eh#: 03120102.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """03120102.xhp\n""par_id111552916434071\n""help.text"msgid
> "<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/sbasic/shared/00000003.xhp#err6\"/>, when VBA
> > > >> compatibility mode is enabled and expression is greater than 255."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/01.po*#. 2Ditv#:
> > > >> func_numbervalue.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """func_numbervalue.xhp\n""par_id351625601754290\n""help.text"msgid
> > > >> "Refer to the <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/01/05020300.xhp#NumbersLink\"/> help page to
> learn
> > > >> how to change the format of numbers in a cell."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po*#. FrQEr#:
> > > >> numbers_text.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """numbers_text.xhp\n""par_id111567772433803\n""help.text"msgid "The
> > > >> text to number conversion can be customized in the <embedvar
> > > >>
> href=\"text/shared/optionen/detailedcalculation.xhp#detailed_heading\"
> > > >> markup=\"ignore\"/> option."
> > > >> #. XvTTj#: remove_duplicates.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """remove_duplicates.xhp\n""par_id31630021517873\n""help.text"msgid
> > > >> "Go to <menuitem>Data - More Filters - Standard Filter</menuitem>.
> > > >> This opens the <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/02/12090100.xhp#StandardFilter_h1\"/> dialog."
> > > >> #. dzAEu#: table_cellmerge.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """table_cellmerge.xhp\n""par_id3154020\n""help.text"msgid "Or,
> choose
> > > >> <embedvar
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> href=\"text/scalc/01/05060000.xhp#format_mergecells_menu\"/><menuitem>Merge
> > > >> Cells</menuitem>"
> > > >> #. DbZBM#: table_cellmerge.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """table_cellmerge.xhp\n""par_id6424146\n""help.text"msgid "Or,
> choose
> > > >> <embedvar
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> href=\"text/scalc/01/05060000.xhp#format_mergecells_menu\"/><menuitem>Merge
> > > >> and Center Cells</menuitem>"
> > > >> #. zBdRG#: table_cellmerge.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """table_cellmerge.xhp\n""par_id9493087\n""help.text"msgid "Or,
> choose
> > > >> <embedvar
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> href=\"text/scalc/01/05060000.xhp#format_mergecells_menu\"/><menuitem>Unmerge
> > > >> Cells</menuitem>."
> > > >> #. YC7sa#: table_cellmerge.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """table_cellmerge.xhp\n""par_id561632820960500\n""help.text"msgid
> > > >> "Or, toggle <embedvar
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> href=\"text/scalc/01/05060000.xhp#format_mergecells_menu\"/><menuitem>Merge
> > > >> and Center Cells</menuitem>"
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/scalc.po*#. tdJRk#: main0200.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """main0200.xhp\n""par_id3148798\n""help.text"msgid "This submenu
> > > >> lists the toolbars that are available in spreadsheets.<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/00/00000007.xhp#symbolleistenneu\"/>"Comment: No
> > > >> space needed? Is the embedded string in 1st case?
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/shared/01.po*#. VPwsL#:
> 05030500.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """05030500.xhp\n""par_id181630450040456\n""help.text"msgid "Read
> the
> > > >> help page <embedvar href=\"text/scalc/guide/borders.xhp#borders\"/>
> to
> > > >> learn more on how to define custom line arrangements."
> > > >> #. cdt69#: 05070200.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """05070200.xhp\n""par_id3144336\n""help.text"msgid "The vertical
> > > >> position of the selected objects is not affected by this
> > > >> command.<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/01/05070100.xhp#mehrfachselektion\"/>"Comment: no
> > > >> space needed? Is the embedded strin in 1st case?
> > > >> #. fqg3X#: 05230100.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """05230100.xhp\n""par_id591602522244128\n""help.text"msgid
> "<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/01/05230100.xhp#AdaptNote\"/> <menuitem>Format -
> > > >> Text</menuitem>."
> > > >> #. 3vHeN#: 06040000.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """06040000.xhp\n""par_id791632159942582\n""help.text"msgid "To turn
> > > >> off AutoCorrect in %PRODUCTNAME Writer choose <menuitem>Tools -
> > > >> AutoCorrect - While Typing</menuitem>. Refer to the help page
> > > >> <embedvar href=\"text/swriter/guide/auto_off.xhp#auto_off\"/> to
> learn
> > > >> more about deactivating AutoCorrect in %PRODUCTNAME Writer."
> > > >> #. cqbQV#: 06040000.xhpmsgctxt
> > > >> """06040000.xhp\n""par_id911632159367467\n""help.text"msgid "To turn
> > > >> off AutoCorrect in %PRODUCTNAME Calc, go to <menuitem>Tools -
> > > >> AutoCorrect Options</menuitem> and uncheck all items in the
> > > >> <emph>Options</emph> and <emph>Localized Options</emph> tabs. Refer
> to
> > > >> the help page <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/scalc/guide/auto_off.xhp#auto_off\"/> to learn more
> about
> > > >> deactivating AutoCorrect in %PRODUCTNAME Calc."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/shared/explorer/database.po*#. 6vbRr
> > > >> #: rep_main.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "rep_main.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id2531815\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "The <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/explorer/database/rep_insertfield.xhp#addfields\"
> > > >> markup=\"ignore\"/> window opens automatically and shows all fields
> of
> > > >> the selected table."
> > > >> #. 9hPaG
> > > >> #: rep_prop.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "rep_prop.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3587145\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<ahelp hid=\".\">The <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/explorer/database/rep_insertfield.xhp#addfields\"
> > > >> markup=\"ignore\"/>  window is shown automatically when you have
> > > >> selected a table in the Contents box and leave that box. You can
> also
> > > >> click the Add Field icon on the toolbar, or choose <item
> > > >> type=\"menuitem\">View - Add Field</item>.</ahelp>"
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/shared/guide.po*#. FepzD
> > > >> #: protection.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "protection.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id761632164002322\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "It is possible to use OpenPGP to define private and public
> keys
> > > >> to be used to encrypt %PRODUCTNAME documents. Read <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/guide/openpgp.xhp#openpgph1\"/> to learn more on
> > > >> how to set up OpenPGP encryption keys."
> > > >> #. XCt7P
> > > >> #: redlining_accept.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "redlining_accept.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3147008\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "If you have put multiple copies of the document in
> circulation,
> > > >> first merge these into one document (see <embedvar
> > > >>
> > >
> href=\"text/shared/guide/redlining_docmerge.xhp#redlining_docmerge\"/>)."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/shared/optionen.po*#. vYV69
> > > >> #: 01070400.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "01070400.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3147229\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "See also <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/guide/print_blackwhite.xhp#print_blackwhite\"/>."
> > > >> #. XLNWu
> > > >> #: detailedcalculation.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "detailedcalculation.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3067110\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<emph>Convert only if unambiguous:</emph> If the text
> > > >> represents a valid and unambiguous numeric value, convert it.
> Example:
> > > >> <item type=\"input\">\"123.456\"</item> will generate a #VALUE!
> error
> > > >> because the text contains a separator, while <item
> > > >> type=\"input\">\"123456\"</item> will not.<br/>See <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/scalc/guide/numbers_text.xhp#numbers_text\"
> > > >> markup=\"ignore\"/> for details."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/simpress/01.po*#. WE2nx
> > > >> #: 05170000.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "05170000.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3159205\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<ahelp hid=\".uno:NewRouting\">Resets the line skew values to
> > > >> the default.</ahelp><embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/shared/00/00000001.xhp#kontext\"/>"
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/02.po*#. 7h49d
> > > >> #: 06140000.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "06140000.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id261616371203225\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "To restart numbering with a number greater than 1,
> right-click
> > > >> in the paragraph where you want to restart numbering, choose
> > > >> <menuitem>Paragraph - Paragraph - </menuitem><embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/swriter/01/05030800.xhp#outlinelisth1\"/> tab, select
> > > >> <menuitem>Restart numbering at this paragraph</menuitem> and enter
> the
> > > >> start number in <menuitem>Start with</menuitem>."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/guide.po*#. 2YWVV
> > > >> #: load_styles.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "load_styles.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id441529889103330\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<embedvar href=\"text/swriter/00/stylesmenu.xhp#sms\"
> > > >> markup=\"keep\"/> to open the <emph>Styles</emph> sidebar deck."
> > > >>
> > > >> #. PG4ys
> > > >> #: numbering_lines.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "numbering_lines.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3153960\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "Format - Paragraph - <embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/swriter/01/05030800.xhp#outlinelisth1\"/>"
> > > >>
> > > >> #. QEp87
> > > >> #: using_numbering.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "using_numbering.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id31616154131555\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "If you want numbered headings, use <menuitem>Tools -
> > > >> </menuitem><embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/swriter/01/06060000.xhp#ChapNumh1\"/>, instead of
> > > >> numbering manually."
> > > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/swriter.po*#. Vus62
> > > >> #: main0215.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "main0215.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3147419\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/swriter/01/05060200.xhp#keinumlauftext\"/>You can also
> > > >> choose this setting on the <emph>Wrap</emph> tab page."Comment: no
> > > >> space needed?
> > > >> #. cqLEM
> > > >> #: main0215.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "main0215.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3153405\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/swriter/01/05060200.xhp#seitenumlauftext\"/>This icon
> > > >> represents the <emph>Page Wrap</emph> option on the
> <emph>Wrap</emph>
> > > >> tab page."Comment: no space needed?
> > > >> #. FMaCU
> > > >> #: main0215.xhp
> > > >> msgctxt ""
> > > >> "main0215.xhp\n"
> > > >> "par_id3147799\n"
> > > >> "help.text"
> > > >> msgid "<embedvar
> > > >> href=\"text/swriter/01/05060200.xhp#durchlauftext\"/>You can also
> > > >> define this setting on the <emph>Wrap</emph> tab page."Comment: no
> > > >> space needed?
> > > >>
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