I've been reading the posts on the list, and I think a thorough discussion of the many aspects of the SMB Band billing itself as "original Doobies", must unfortunately include why Chet & Corny continued to perform with the band after they found out about the deceptive billing. (I'm giving Dave the benefit of the doubt, as he should be considered an "original Doobie".) It's my understanding that Dave, Chet, and Corny, did not have anything to do with the use of the name in the advertising of the gigs. It was the butler! No... Sorry,. I guess the producer and publicist for the SMB band get credit for that brilliant marketing shiest. To me, however, the fact that the guys in the band continued to perform once they knew of the billing, shows at least some degree of complicity, and is ethically inexcusable.
Hope you all are doing well! I'll get off my soapbox now.
Oh, yeah, I got a box set from Rhino last Friday. (They're sending me some in the mail, but it was killing me hearing you all talk about it, so I went and picked one up.) I was tearing the clearwrap off in the parking garage elevator. As you might imagine, I couldn't wait to see my photo in the booklet. As those of you who got a copy emailed from me probably noticed, Corney was cropped off the left side. I also got a nice surprise as I checked out the rest of the booklet. My image of Bobby LaKind is used as the inset on pg. 80! (By the way, both the photos were taken at the benefit concert for Bobby, October '92, not '87.)
The set is awesome! There are songs I wish were on it, but I say that about every best of/ boxset. In my opinion, Rhino and the Doobies did a great job.
To the Doobie Brothers: Thanks for 29 years of music that makes me feel good, down to my soul!
Cheers, Joe
Al Hartkopf wrote:
Wholly appropriate. I have personally experienced live performances from
Chet and Cornelius and appreciated them right along with many other brothers
and sisters. They are certainly due some laurels.Al
> -----Original Message-----
> From: steroid.(mike lepker) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 4:33 PM
> To: Hartkopf, Al [PPBCS:7S10:EXCH]
> Subject: Re: David Sprague needs to get his facts straight
>
> What about the term........ Alumni ????
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Hartkopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:03 AM
> Subject: FW: David Sprague needs to get his facts straight
>
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I sent this to Guitar.com today in an attempt to correct his errant ways.
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced, but the [EMAIL PROTECTED] went through. Not
> that
> >I would call for a mail-bomb or any thing . . . . but . . .
> >
> >Al Hartkopf
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> >people was busted on a recent flight to the UK for joining the "Mile High
> >Club." Just another claim to fame :-)
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hartkopf, Al [PPBCS:7S10:EXCH]
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:43 AM
> >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >> Subject: David Sprague needs to get his facts straight
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Please forward this to David Sprague.
> >> In a recent Pipeline article David Sprague wrote:
> >>
> >> Founding Doobie Members Robbed of Right to Rock
> >> By David Sprague
> >>
> >> When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way... but when you're a Doobie
> >> Brother, things are a little bit different. The multi-national
> >> conglomerate
> >> that operates under the name "The Doobie Brothers" has won a
> preliminary
> >> injunction against three former, er. "employees" who've been using the
> >> name
> >> to tour the nation's backroads. A Florida judge stepped in and ordered
> >> Dave
> >> Shogren, Chet McCracken and Cornelius Bumpus, all of whom were original
> >> members of the Doobies, to stop booking and promoting their new group
> >> under
> >> any "Doobie" variation, since those are all registered trademark
> belonging
> >> to the Doobie Brothers Corp. The band, which formed in 1970, has
> undergone
> >> numerous personnel changes over the years -- kinda like Menudo or the
> Foo
> >> Fighters -- but the corp. retains the name. -- David Sprague
> >>
> >> His facts are wrong. Of the three musicians cited, only Dave Shogren
> was
> >> an original member. Even at that, Dave departed the band after the
> >> self-titled 1971 album which never went anywhere. Dave appeared on only
> >> two songs on the second album "Toulouse Street" and was not present for
> >> any subsequent albums and did not tour with the Brothers in 72 when
> they
> >> promoted that album. He is given credit for this work on both albums
> and
> >> on the Doobie Brothers web page, as is appropriate. He is "an original
> >> member", but clearly has not logged the miles or the years to lay any
> >> serious claim to it today.
> >>
> >> As for Cornelius and Chet, they first appeared with the Doobies on
> their
> >> 1980 album "One Step Closer" and continued on the 1983 release "The
> Doobie
> >> Brothers Farewell Tour." They both toured with the Brothers during
> those
> >> years.
> >>
> >> When the band reformed in the 1989 Chet and Corn were not with them.
> Corn
> >> was in fact working session jobs and toured briefly with Steely Dan.
> Word
> >> on the street is that the whole "Original Doobie Brothers" sham was
> cooked
> >> up by their publicist. Typical.
> >>
> >> But let's see who was their then as now. Tom Johnston and Pat Simmons
> are
> >> all that is left from the very first album, but Big Mike Hossack joined
> in
> >> 72 and Keith Knudsen joined in 73. These guys have been there for
> almost
> >> two decades. It is clear that they are "The Doobie Brothers." They play
> >> the songs, hold the rights, did the time, and rocked the world. If you
> >> would give Dave, Cornelius, and Chet the ability to call themselves
> "The
> >> Doobie Brothers", you should likewise give Maria Muldaur, Ry Cooder,
> Jeff
> >> Baxter, Maureen McDonald, Billy Payne, and a whole string of others
> that
> >> have appeared on albums by "The Doobie Brothers." Many groups and
> artist
> >> have guest musicians as well as member turnover. That hardly gives them
> >> all rights to the group name (ala Roger Waters/Pink Floyd and many
> >> others).
> >>
> >> Next time David blasts hard-working, dues-paid-in-full musicians for
> >> protecting their name, he should at least get his facts straight. I
> know
> >> who The Doobie Brothers are and so do their fans. Perhaps a little
> >> homework on his part is in order. He owes the Brothers an apology and
> can
> >> send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit their homepage at
> www.doobiebros.com
> >> and do it there.
> >>
> >> Al Hartkopf
> >> Software Delivery Evolution & BLM
> >> Core Upgrade Programs
> >> Nortel Networks
> >> fon 919-905-7597 (esn 355)
> >> fax 919-905-8775 (esn 355)
> >> mobile 919-271-0314
> >>
> >
>
