Hello Salvatore, You're right there is no real reason to move to Wheezy first, except that I have an ARM prototype running on Wheezy that just needs the main menu to get working. I started to work on that topic in December 2013 and stopped at the following point:
* The session Whole DDL was working * GDM2 was replaced with LightDM + webkit (custom build) – no menu * Delphine started to design a new main menu, to be ported to Html (because of webkit) * Our Debian repositories was populated with new packages for i686, amd64, armel, armhf and raspbian NB: Because of the recent availability of RPi 2 which is binary compatible with armhf, I plan to give up raspbian, since RPi version 1 is too slow for DDL and can only run (too small) a subset of its applications. Moreover it's more complicated to cross-build for raspbian, from an amd64 system, while it's quite easy for armhf. Jessie may be or should be out before DDL 2.2, so we can instead base v2.5 directly on Jessie, supposing there is no blocking, technical issue. I must say I still haven't looked at Jessie, I can't tell if there are many changes or not, especially concerning LXDE. I suggest we re-discuss this option (Wheezy or not) once 2.2 is out. Cheers, JM. ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Salvatore Gagliano" <[email protected]> > À: [email protected], "doudoulinux-dev" <[email protected]>, > "doudoulinux-lang" <[email protected]>, > "doudoulinux-docs" <[email protected]>, "doudoulinux-graphics" > <[email protected]>, > "doudoulinux-announce" <[email protected]> > Envoyé: Dimanche 15 Mars 2015 23:02:36 > Objet: Re: [Doudoulinux-announce] Future releases + details on v2.2 > > > > Hi Jean-Michelle. > > > I'm very happy to hear from you the project is going to revive. > I will try to find time to improve some translations. > > Just a question: is there any reason to spend time to Wheezy instead > to go directly to Jessie? > > > Regards, > > > Salvatore. > > > > > > > Da: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > A: doudoulinux-dev <[email protected]>; doudoulinux-lang > <[email protected]>; doudoulinux-docs > <[email protected]>; doudoulinux-graphics > <[email protected]>; doudoulinux-announce > <[email protected]> > Inviato: Domenica 15 Marzo 2015 11:25 > Oggetto: [Doudoulinux-announce] Future releases + details on v2.2 > > > Hello! > > As you may have noticed, our project has been almost sleeping for > about a full year. Although nothing seemed to happen, translators > continued to join our project on Transifex, especially Amedeo and > his teams in Thailand and Vietnam, and we attended several free > software events in western Europe. So this was apparent sleep only! > That said I must confess that development didn't progress at all and > restarted recently only, to support the new Thai version of > DoudouLinux. NB: If you are a developer and find DoudouLinux doesn't > progress fast enough, you know what to do, don't you? ;) > > So what's up now? Because there hadn't been any language update for a > while, we need to first publish a release 2.2 that will provide > fresher translations. If you've followed the recent messages on our > lists a bit, you know that we are working on the Thai version. This > work shows things are not perfect concerning localization, so I need > to fix and develop code to make it better. I'd also like to include > new features to help translators get their work back to DoudouLinux > more quickly, while still being working on Transifex. There are two > options with pros and cons: > > 1. Include in DoudouLinux a tool that would update translations > directly from Transifex. This would allow translators to see their > work live, nearly at the time they translate! However this requires > some coding and probably lots of tests. Ideally, translators would > translate from within DoudouLinux, through the web browser. > Unfortunately the web browser, Epiphany, doesn't display HTTPS sites > anymore in DoudouLinux (Transifex uses HTTPS) and I fear this is due > to the SSL issues recently discovered (which could mean we need to > upgrade to Debian Wheezy). > > 2. Build language updates automatically from Transifex, on a nightly > base, that will appear as standard system updates (apt-get upgrade). > This is the path I'm taking. Basically, I try to automate everything > I can to handle translations and localization, to avoid human > mistakes and lower the effort (we have more than 45 languages…). Our > Debian packages of translation updates are already built by few > scripts without human action. Similarly, translations are fetched > from Transifex by a single script. So I've started to setup a server > that would do all these tasks automatically every night, and would > publish updated packages as soon as a character has been changed on > Transifex! > > Note that 2) doesn't exclude 1), I'd like to have both indeed, in a > not so far future! > > If we want to be able to publish version 2.2 in quite short a time, I > think no additional feature should be included. You may also know > that Hyperborea 2.x is still based on Debian Squeeze, the old > stable. So no need to spend too much time on it, it is better to > focus then on moving to Wheezy and Jessie and give up Squeeze as > soon as possible. I'm currently planning to publish version 2.2 by > June, which means translations will be gathered for the official > release by end of May or beginning of June. Of course, if all the > translations are not OK for your language at this time, no problem, > you'll be able to provide updates later using nightly translation > updates (have you read the beginning of the message???). > > Concerning releases after 2.2, the plans are still to move to Wheezy > first, in a release that would be numbered 2.5. This release will > not provide anything more than 2.2, this will be a technical > upgrade, so its number 2.5. Of course, as applications will probably > be upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy, translations may not be as good > as they will be for 2.2 (but you know, nightly updates :), and some > settings may not work anymore. The major difficulty with Wheezy is > the absence of GDM2 on which the main DoudouLinux menu is based :(. > I had started to work on that topic a year ago with Delphine, one of > our graphic designers. We need to revive this work and make it work! > > Once 2.5 is published, say after summer, we would immediately focus > on Jessie. Yes, the goal will not be to make a "perfect" release > based on Wheezy, since it's going to become old stable quite soon. > Hoping Jessie won't break too much things in DoudouLinux, we would > move to Jessie by end 2015 or early 2016. The version number will be > 3.0 and will hopefully bring new features, new applications and new > graphic design. If you find this is too late, hem, you know what? > Can also help the project progress faster, you'll be welcome :). > > That's it! Any comment, suggestion, disappointment, relief, worry, > etc., feel free to share! > > Cheers, > JM. > > _______________________________________________ > Doudoulinux-announce mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/doudoulinux-announce > > > _______________________________________________ Doudoulinux-lang mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/doudoulinux-lang
