Am 01.04.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch:
On Mit, 2015-04-01 at 13:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 01.04.2015 um 13:04 schrieb Bernd Petrovitsch:
IMHO the larger the corporation is, the less are the chances for
*long-term* benefits of the OSS/free software (mainly because: usually
commercial success is driven and defined from marketing to sales[1] sown
to the techies which are forced into "features" and "delivery dates" to
achieve some "company defined goal" - and that is usually not "bug
free", "safe", or the like. Free software/OSS just happens that *at
least* half of it should come from the "working level" and that is - at
least - much more - ahemm - "inconvenient" for sales people)

FWIW the context were large "old-school" corps (like Novell or Oracle)
taking over free software companies.

that is simple not true - if it would be true linux distributions would

Define "true Linux distribution".

who the fuck was talking abiut "true Linux distribution"?

not include half baken and aplha quality sofwtare again and again in
stable releases because "the market out there"

That's everywhere in the commercial world the problem with "delivery vs
quality/known problems" and someone's decision to ship or not to ship -
based in whatever feels appropriate.

and in the opensource world too - so shwat

BTW typical Linux distributions package some else's software and
(almost) everyone knows that (and do not blame the distro for shipping
buggy software - is there actually any bug-free software?;-).

And it depends on
- the package (core package like kernel, gcc, perl, apache-http, ...)
   vs some exotic application (the n+1.th text editor, MUA, ...).
- the bug in question - is that stuff unusable or happens the bug only
   if you do crazy creative stuff on files with 6+GB size or 1000k lines?
And usually distros run bug tracking and (try to) get bugs fixed - in
house or upstream.

no it don't - it depends in a braindead race include new software generations in alpha quality state instead wait until it become mature

and *because* this happens with pure OSS too your statement above is wrong

the *possible* long-term benefits are more time to invest because a
fixed income

If the free software is the core business, it is not a problem (and
these are not the companies in the discussion)

and even if it is *not* the core business it is not a problem as long as you get what you have now maintained for free - if there is a new killer feature and you are a commercial mail hoster and don't want to spent a small amount of money your talking about opensource is hypocrisy because the only thing you care about is get anything for free

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