Gary,
 
    Your message came to me as an email but I didn't  see it posted so I'm 
copying your message and my reply to the list.
 
WB6OGD said:
 
>>> My R-4A (13 tube s/n 3740) had an almost exact same  problem.  Took me 
almost 10 years
to find it.  Mine did the signal  level change with the STBY recovery, only 
difference was mine
would do it for  the first hour then it would be ok.  It was tricky to find 
because it was  so
intermittant and because it was somehow on the AVC line it affected  
voltage readings
everywhere!!

>>> I finally found it was C126, a 0.1uF paper(?) decoupling  cap for the 
passband tuner circuit.
It was a big black cap on one of the  small "circuit boards" and was also 
mechanically
unstable in that you could  rock the board and the problem would happen.

>>> Gary  WB6OGD


I'll put the good news first and then talk  about the analysis.  I did 
change that capacitor tonight, replacing it with  a Sprague "Orange Drop" 0.1 
ufd/600v, and the receiver ran flawlessly  for well over two hours.  I checked 
the capacitor on the DVM and it  shows infinite resistance so that doesn't 
really tell me anything, and I don't  have a capacitor checker.
 
    That capacitor and associated resistors on the PCB  were "in my sights" 
already.  It's a funny coincidence that you mentioned  that capacitor since 
I've been wondering about it since yesterday,  when I hit it with a quick 
blast of "Zero Mist" circuit cooler and the problem  disappeared.  If the 
problem was mechanical in nature (as in, a faulty  mechanical connection inside 
the capacitor)  the probable source with mine  (since the unit had to heat 
up for nearly an hour for the problem to  appear) was probably a gradual 
heating of the wire from pin 7 of V4 that  goes to that capacitor, causing the 
mechanical interface inside the  capacitor to become intermittent.  Wiggling 
that wire would also cause the  problem to come and go as you noted but I 
initially thought it was a tube socket  issue.  Re-soldering connections to 
the little PCB didn't help.   
 
    Checks of other circuitry using a 'scope and DVM  confirmed that the 
PTO, crystal oscillator, and 9 vdc supply all remained  perfectly stable when 
the problem occurred.   B+ voltages were  pretty constant with the only 
change being a slight (maybe a volt or two)  increase in the 160 vdc level when 
the problem appeared, which is consistent  with the tubes in the later 
stages drawing slightly less current because of the  lower signal level present.
 
    Conversely, a 'scope probe on the grid of V5  (pin 1) showed the input 
signal to that tube varying in level as the problem  appeared and 
disappeared (I ran the crystal calibrator as a test  signal).  I also noticed 
that 
manipulating the PBT  had a momentary effect on the problem, so that also 
pointed to a  possible problem in the circuitry or components around V4 and the 
 
PBT.
 
    From the benefit of decades of professional  troubleshooting experience 
I can tell you that a flaky non-electrolytic  capacitor can be among the 
hardest things to nail down.  This is one reason  why, IMO, it isn't a bad 
move to just replace not only the electrolytics in  an old radio, but also the 
paper caps.  Granted that 1960s-vintage  paper-style caps were certainly 
better-made and more robust than their 1930s  ancestors, but nevertheless they 
can go weird from time to time and if  there aren't too many of them in the 
radio it's not a bad practice to change  them all out (although I did an old 
SX-42 Hallicrafters and it took a whole bag  of Orange Drops to completely 
re-cap it).
 
    We'll see how 5757G holds up over the next couple  of days.  ;-)   
 
    73/arf
 
    Paul, K4MSG 
 
 
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