I DID IT ! I DID IT ! I DID IT! HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN! Please
excuse my slurred speech but I just finished a bottle of champagne.
hi,hi
I cannot thank all you guys enough for all the great advice. I learned
so much about the operation of the Drake TR4C. You can never know too
much. Maybe I will be as good with Drake as with Heathkit. One can
only hope.
I rechecked everything again, the switch wafer contacts one by one,
the vari caps in the finals, all the pots, flushed the neutralization
pot with alcohol and spun it around, etc. etc. The 20M output during
the trouble was on the exact frequency of the VFO dial.
Then while checking for a firm seating of all tubes in their sockets,
I touched V3 6EA8 MIXER/CATHODE FOLLOWER and heard awful static in the
speaker. I wiggled the coil under the socket and the same result. Then
I inserted my 9-pin socket test adapter and put the tube in that.
HOOOOOORAY! All is quiet. I tuned up on all bands and had good output
on all bands except 10M using the X-CW position.
I know I read somewhere but cannot locate it now, explaining the xmit
output difference in X-CW as opposed to SSB. Can someone explain?
I will now go back and check the CO, carrier balance, neutralization
and tweak the V3 pin sockets with my handy dandy stainless steel fine
point dental pick and make sure all pin connections are soldered good
and maybe for good measure, just resolder them all to make sure.
thanks so much and 73, Dick KF4NS
St Petersburg, FL 33714 USA
Keep The Glow!
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:15:59 -0400
From: "Dick KF4NS" <kf4nsra...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Drake] [Drakelist] TR4C weird xmit trouble
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<dr...@mailman.qth.net>, "Drake list at zerobeat"
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RESENDING THIS DUE TO WRONG ORIGINATOR ADDRESS (STUPID ME!)
Garey,
This is not new to me. I acquired it in 1995 after it had been
stored
in a garage for 10 years. No need to tell the tale, you can just
imagine. After a physical cleaning I fired it up and it worked fine.
Then this year I decided after getting your CD that it was time to
do
a real restore which I did. I will never say that was a bad idea
since
it was not even close to good performance.
20 meters had been working at par for the rest of the bands. The
finals are what was in there, Sylvania 6JB6 da ALM marked on them.
As
tested on my B&K 707, the gm was for V8=9000 V9=9500 V10=10500, for
what it is worth.
Neutralization went well using my scope with voltages removed from
finals. Will do it over but tune up on 28.0 instead of 29.1 just for
a
do-over again.
By the way, the schematic you recommended was series 35161 but I
discovered yesterday that mine is a match for series 42500 even
though
mine was built in '74 with serial #38145, go figure. It has those
goofy brn/blk/wht/silver bypass caps across IF xfmrs T11/T12. Took
quite a while to figure out they were caps and not resistors. Never
ever saw those things before.
73, Dick KF4NS
St Petersburg, FL 33714 USA
Keep The Glow!
----- Original Message -----
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:27:29 -0400
From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: drakelist <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] [Drake] TR4C weird xmit trouble
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Dick -
Is this a 'new' transceiver to you? Has it ever worked on 20M to
your
knowledge? 20M is one of the 'simple' bands, (the other one is
80M,)
where Q1, Q2, V1 and V3a are not used at all.
What brand are the final tubes? Are they the same brand?
It sounds like the PA is oscillating. The most common cause is
off-brand or mis-matched final tubes. Next is improper
neutralization.
Next would be a bad bypass cap. There is also a possibility with
the
TR-4 series of mistuned bandpass transformers. You could remove the
PA
tubes, or just remove the screen voltage at the third feedthrough
from
the back on the PA shield under the chassis (C75). Careful, the
second
one from the back is the HV! Once the PA is disabled, see if you
have a
correct 20M signal out of the Driver stage (V6).
I suspect if you checked your '20M output', you'd find that it's
NOT
where you think it is. Does the output peak with the RF TUNE
control in
approximately the correct place? IF you listen on a separate
receiver,
is there a signal where the transceiver dial says it is?
73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA
Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-B, C-Line&
TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>
Dick KF4NS wrote:
I sure hope I am not making a nuisance of myself but I am out of
ideas
and have tried everything that was suggested, including
neutralization
(which was ok) and have read the manuals for service and owners
over
and over for hours, and have studied the schematic for hours and
hours.
The original message was for a trouble just trying to set the bias
which was fine on all bands but 20M. Since then, I have tried to
tune
up in the X-CW position and all bands tuned fine except for 20M.
On 20M I can get a power out of 150W but the plate current is
600ma,
the xmit gain dips the plate current (yes, the xmit gain!), the
plate
tune cap also dips the current but output drops to nothing, the RF
tune acts like the xmit gain should.
The only real defect I did find was R53 1.5K in the plate circuit
of
V11 was cooked. I replaced it.
This rig has been gone completely refurbished recently with bad
tubes
replaced, all contacts cleaned and contact enhancer applied, 9mhz
osc.
set right on, 100khz osc set right on. neutralization set on 10M,
resoldered the contacts on the rear wafer of bandswitch, C145
replaced, P.S. upgraded to AC4R.
Keep in mind, ALL BANDS RECEIVE FINE AND TRANSMIT FINE except 20M.
Please help, Thanks and 73, Dick KF4NS
St Petersburg, FL 33714 USA
Keep The Glow!
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