Garey and *all* that have provided guidance in my pursuit of the T-4XC
problems. Thanks very much for your input and time.

I DO have side tone on CW and I hear the expected signal in the receiver
when I key the transmitter in spot mode.

-Joe in St. Louis
WS8X



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>   4. Re: T-4XC sudden loss of RF output (Garey Barrell)
>   5. T-4X tune switch (Howard Traxler)
>   6. Re: "To Boldly Go..." (LONG!) (Jim Shorney)
>   7. Drake 26.1 MHz crystal for R-4C (Donley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:15:06 -0500
> From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
> To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] "To Boldly Go..." (LONG!)
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> Eddy -
>
> Very nice!  Glad it went well, and we can all learn.  I have seen
> problems with the 'Dur-Mica' (brown epoxy 'dog-bone') caps.  The
> slivering 'migrates' onto the ends of the mica sheets and can form
> shorts.  This usually show up in caps with higher DC voltages on them,
> I've never seen it in a PTO.  Certainly seems that in your case you just
> had some crumbly solder.  Only took 50 years for it to show up!!  :-)
>
> Thanks for reporting back and added to the knowledge base!
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
> Glen Allen, VA
>
> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-B, C-Line&
> TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
> <www.k4oah.com>
>
>
> Edward Swynar wrote:
> > different wires&  parts of the PTO---but when I applied even the gentlest
> of
> > pressure on one side only of C89---a 3000-pfd. maroon-coloured silver
> mica
> > cap in the oscillator tank---the exact same warbble&  instability of
> before
> > started anew! I then pressed the other side of this same capacitor, and
> the
> > signal stabilized.
> >
> > Hmmmm...sounded like a bad / "aged" solder joint of sorts to me, so I
> > applied heat to both points on the board contacting the capacitor's
> leads,
> > causing the solder therein to re-flow. I then attempted to again induce
> the
> > instability of before, but could only make the PTO frequency change
> slightly
> > in frequency, much as was done before by applying pressure to the other
> > side...
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:50:29 -0500
> From: Joe Loverti <ww8x....@gmail.com>
> To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4A preselector slippage
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> Interesting comments and I have no doubt you guys have nailed the
> problem...
> simply, old age!!
>
> The good news is: I can get the preselector pointer to move into the 15 and
> 10 meter sections if I pull the knob very hard towards me as I turn it to
> the right -- not an ideal solution -- but, it does work.
>
> Thanks for your input!
>
> 73,
> Joe
> WW8X
> Miamisburg, Ohio
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> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XC sudden loss of RF output
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> Thanks to all that have replied in with regard to my T-4XC. All connections
> have been checked and double checked with no joy.
>
> Garey...
>
> A little more background and specifics... All was working perfectly fine
> until I had the bright idea to employ the use of an "el cheapo" antenna A/B
> switch to change from my Drakes to my modern rig. I went to tune up w/ the
> antenna switch in-line and this is when I noticed that my plate current was
> WAY lower than it normally is. Normally, a the beginning of the tune up
> sequence (with the XTR gain at 9 o'clock) I get a reading of .2 amperes of
> plate. After the tune up is complete I usually see the plate at .3 or a
> little more. Now the most I can muster is .2 amperes. The RF tune has
> little
> or no effect. Max out is a little over 10 watts. I was getting over 100
> watts easily on all bands before. Could my finals have failed? I am no
> technician but, it seems like this would have happened more gradually.
>
> I am getting plate current, just way down from where it was at.
>
> RF tune does peak but, it's way down from where it was. Only about .2
> amperes.
>
> I've gotten the same results on all the bands that I've tried, 80, 40, and
> 20.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> -Joe Loverti Jr (WS8X)
>
> St. Louis, MO, not Miamisburg, OH
> A lot of folks get my Dad (WW8X) and I confused ;D
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> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:18:47 -0500
> From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
> To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XC sudden loss of RF output
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> Joe -
>
> Perhaps this is too simplistic, but have you removed the switch and gone
> straight to the dummy load?
>
> If you increase the RF GAIN does the plate current / output power increase?
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
> Glen Allen, VA
>
> joe loverti wrote:
> > Thanks to all that have replied in with regard to my T-4XC. All
> > connections have been checked and double checked with no joy.
> >
> > Garey...
> >
> > A little more background and specifics... All was working perfectly
> > fine until I had the bright idea to employ the use of an "el cheapo"
> > antenna A/B switch to change from my Drakes to my modern rig. I went
> > to tune up w/ the antenna switch in-line and this is when I noticed
> > that my plate current was WAY lower than it normally is. Normally, a
> > the beginning of the tune up sequence (with the XTR gain at 9 o'clock)
> > I get a reading of .2 amperes of plate. After the tune up is complete
> > I usually see the plate at .3 or a little more. Now the most I can
> > muster is .2 amperes. The RF tune has little or no effect. Max out is
> > a little over 10 watts. I was getting over 100 watts easily on all
> > bands before. Could my finals have failed? I am no technician but, it
> > seems like this would have happened more gradually.
> >
> > I am getting plate current, just way down from where it was at.
> >
> > RF tune does peak but, it's way down from where it was. Only about .2
> > amperes.
> >
> > I've gotten the same results on all the bands that I've tried, 80, 40,
> > and 20.
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> >
> > -Joe Loverti Jr (WS8X)
> >
> > St. Louis, MO, not Miamisburg, OH
> > A lot of folks get my Dad (WW8X) and I confused ;D
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:14:41 -0600
> From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxl...@earthlink.net>
> To: <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
> Subject: [Drakelist] T-4X tune switch
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> Well, I can't seem to get my T-4XC to work so I hooked up the T-4X
> temporarily.  Now the question:
>
> When tuning the xmtr, I get no power out; however, as I switch Tune to SSB,
> I get about 1/2 seconds of RF output.  Key jack is closed and there is no
> mic/push to talk plugged in.
>
> Any ideas, please?
>
> Howard, WA9RYF
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:58:13 -0500
> From: "Jim Shorney" <jshor...@inebraska.com>
> To: "drakelist@zerobeat.net" <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] "To Boldly Go..." (LONG!)
> Message-ID: <20101111045809.06b04225...@mail04.inebraska.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:15:06 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote:
>
> >Certainly seems that in your case you just
> >had some crumbly solder.  Only took 50 years for it to show up!!  :-)
>
> I found a cracked solder joint in a TR-7 PTO not long ago, using a method
> similar to Eddy's. The connection appeared entirely normal, except that the
> cut
> end of the wire poking through the solder seemed to be bent at an odd
> angle.
> The symptom was intermittent PTO operation, and the cause finally presented
> itself when the solder joint in question was 'stimulated' with a
> non-conductive
> tool.
>
> Orange wood sticks work well for such probing, they are soft enough that
> you're
> not going to hurt anything.
>
> 73
>
> -Jim
>
>
> --
> Ham Radio NU0C
> Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A.
> TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A,
> GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time!
>
> "Give a man a URL, and he will learn for an hour; teach him to Google, and
> he will learn for a lifetime."
>
> HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/
> http://radiojim.exofire.net
> http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney
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>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:59:24 -0500
> From: "Donley" <donley...@comcast.net>
> To: <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
> Subject: [Drakelist] Drake 26.1 MHz crystal for R-4C
> Message-ID: <1bb0f7502b704221ac767a3dbab95...@ownerb77866e08>
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>
> Does anyone have a spare 26.1 MHz crystal (for 15.0 to 15.5 MHz R-4C)
> available. Please indicate condition and price plus shipping to 47429.
>
> 73
> Richard
> kc9ub
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