----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt Nixon" <cptc...@flash.net>
Cc: <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC4 heat Fan Summary


All:

On both of my AC4s, from 1966ish, the cover has a series of slots along the top and lower edge just above the top of the chassis. These seem to provide a very even distribution of inlet air when using the method I have chosen. Are there AC4s that DO NOT have the slots?

As Richard describes, if the slots aren't there, the suction cooling doesn't work. You have to have a way for the exchange air to enter. (Or escape)

BTW, Richard is absolutely on target regarding the consideration of heat movement. No one cares about where the air goes we are really concerned about its effect on the heat flow. Thermal modeling and IR thermal imaging has provided designers today with much better analysis tools than were available in the 60's.

Cheers

Curt




Richard Knoppow wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "mike bryce" <proso...@sssnet.com>
To: "Richard Knoppow" <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <captc...@flash.net>; <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC4 heat Fan Summary


thought I'd toss my .02 in with a question

on the tr series, a fan mounted to the rear of the pa
compartment,

should it blow in

or suck out?

since we're not trying to pressurize a compartment, there's
plenty of holes in the cage and top cover, and since heat
rises,
it would seem to me that one would mount the fan so it would
blow into and onto the final tubes

To me, it seems a fan sucking air out of the pa compartment
would have to compete with the natural convention of heat
raising

so, what's the word from the thermal gods?



Mike, WB8VGE
SunLight Energy Systems
The Heathkit Shop
http://www.theheathkitshop.com/

I noted this in my little diatribe. For the T4 the fan
works best sucking the heat out from the top. Its very
simple and works. Most of the heat in this TX comes from the finals and is concentrated in the final compartment. While it is in a perforated metal enclosure there is a lot of heat generated in a small area plus the addition of the external
cabinet further interferes with both direct radiation of
heat and convection. A small fan very significantly reduces
the heat.
Much of what I wrote has to do with completely enclosed
spaces where the conditions are quite different from the
above. Where you can control the air flow there are
advantages to positive pressure but, again, one must be
careful to plot out the flow of _heat_ to insure one is not getting unintended heating rather than cooling. Actually,
that's the problem with using a pushing fan on something
like the T4, the heat is pushed out around other components
and can heat them up where the sucking fan draws cool air
from around the tubes and exhausts it directly to the air.
   I mainly wanted to point out the differences between
cooling a basically open area like the T4 final cage and a
completely enclosed space like the AC-4.


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com


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