Bravo, Kihwal...!

...And congratulations on a job well done.

Those Drake PTOs really AREN'T all that intimidating, once you've gotten
"...close & personal" with them, as you've just learned. I applaud your
dogged determination to resolve your problem there successfully---and for
sharing your findings with the rest of us on this Reflector...

~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kihwal Lee" <kih...@yahoo.com>
To: <k4...@mindspring.com>; "drakelist" <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R-4A PTO


Dear OMs on this thread, (Do not try to visualize this)

Here is my report I promised yesterday:

While I was checking cold solder joints, I checked the conductance of the
tuning coil.
The tap in the middle was fine, but the wire was broken near the rear-end
terminal.
The meter would jump a little and then show the infinite R. So I think it
was a very
fine "crack".

Here is a picture that shows what it looked like after I de-soldered the PCB
from the
terminal and lifted the broken end. I soldered it back and now the PTO works
fine.
Thanks for useful tips.

http://kihwal.fayoly.net/ham/pto_broken_wire.jpg

Kihwal, K9SUL (ex-HL1SUL)



----- Original Message -----
From: Kihwal Lee <kih...@yahoo.com>
To: "k4...@mindspring.com" <k4...@mindspring.com>; drakelist
<Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Cc:
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R-4A PTO

Hi Garey,

Thanks for the wonderful tips. I will let the list know what I find. I know
of a person who redesigned the TR-4 PTO circuit to get the better stability.
I do not know what effect it had on the linearity though. I will ask him
whether he is okay with sharing the information.

73,
Kihwal, K9SUL (ex-HL1SUL)



----- Original Message -----
From: Garey Barrell <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: drakelist <Drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Cc:
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R-4A PTO

Kiwahl -

First, that's a 2N3858 in the Buffer position, a 2N3904 will replace. The
2N706 is still available from Mouser and others. Other transistors 'may'
work, but 'may' also corrupt the linearity. I don't know..... I've been
looking for a defunct PTO to conduct these sorts of experiments on, and
can't bring myself to mess up a working unit! :-)

There are several other, more likely, causes of PTO failure.

Top of the list is bad solder joints, particularly the tap on the coil.

The 10V Zener sometimes shorts.

Leaky or shorted Dur-Mica (brown, dog-bone) cap.

Leaky or intermittent disc ceramic cap.

Roughly in that order!

The Buffer should read about 8 VDC on the Collector, 2.5 VDC on the Base,
and 1.9 VDC on the Emitter.

The Oscillator should read about 9 VDC on the C, 5.6 VDC on the B, and 5 VDC
on the E. The Collector reading may be 'anything', depending upon the
characteristics of your meter probe. It may kill the oscillations
completely. The important reading here is the Base to be about 0.6 V above
the Emitter. If this is true, the transistor is almost certainly ok.

Let us know what you find!!

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>


Kihwal Lee wrote:
> The PTO in my R-4A failed a few days ago. I replaced it with a spare I
had, but I still want to fix it as it has better linearity. In case the
transistors are bad, what are the proper substitutes? It has a 2N3058 and a
2N706.
>
> Kihwal, K9SUL
>

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