Hi Garey,

Yes, the CW out of the T-4X is DEFINITELY of grade A quality. A buddy of mine 
in London & I had a sked awhile back, & for fun I fired-up the T-4X (it was 
behaving itself back then!). He went out of his way to remark how very good my 
signal sounded---a compliment that was completely unsolicited, too, BTW...

Well, the tubular cap in mine is connected to the board just ahead of where the 
3000-pfd. S.M. cap is---then its other lead extends near-horizontally to the 
vertical phenolic board of the PTO assembly.

And yes, it's obvious that CW really is little more than an after-thought in 
the minds of many of to-day's engineers of imported transceivers: I regularly 
hear VERY "clicky" rigs on 160-meters, & truncated first characters in CW 
strings. Not so with the T-4X, though! I don't know if it was a different 
appreciation for the mode at the time, or just superior "made in the USA" 
design---but I like it!

~73!~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


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On 2011-08-17, at 4:16 PM, Garey Barrell wrote:

> Eddy -
> 
> OK.  Well, best guess is that is a 33 pF @ 10%.  Not many of the 'select at 
> test' caps are that large, although some are.  Where is this one connected?
> 
> Yes, the T-4X(any) transmitters were always a 'cut above' it's 
> contemporaries.  There were more than a few who claimed that they could 
> 'tell' a T-4X easily.  I was one of them.  Occurred to me after I found that 
> about 90% of the CQs that I answered by picking out a good signal were 
> running the T-4X!  They just have a solid, almost 'heavy' sound.  The 
> diode/cap (D7/C134) does it's job of 'yanking in' the VOX and TR relay to 
> capture ALL of that first 'dit'!!
> 
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
> Glen Allen, VA
> 
> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
> and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
> <www.k4oah.com>
> 
> 
> Eddy Swynar wrote:
>> */Hi Garey,/*
>> 
>> Many thanks for that insight...
>> 
>> Well, I just took another look at the cap, & all I can see is just the 
>> /orange - orange - black /paint dabs, with the first orange dot starting at 
>> the middle of the cap. I'll do some digging here myself to see what I might 
>> be able to find in some of my older ARRL */HANDBOOKs/*...
>> 
>> BTW, I checked & /RE/-checked the signal from my T-4X since correcting that 
>> solder joint on that cap---and it /STILL/sounds good. In fact, the CW note 
>> from that old T-4X---w/hen it's working properly, that is!-/--is sheer 
>> /MUSIC/to one's ears. The note is clean & clear, but 
>> /NOT/harsh-sounding...absolutely delightful! No clicks or truncated 
>> characters either like you get with some modern-day "rice rockets".
>> 
>> Now I know why I /REFUSE/to give-up on this thing...
>> 
>> */~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ/*
>> 
>> 
>> ************************************************************************************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-08-17, at 3:15 PM, Garey Barrell wrote:
>> 
>>> Eddy -
>>> 
>>> Yep, solder is the #2 problem in PTOs.
>>> 
>>> The white tubular caps (glass or ceramic tube w/ wire wrapped around each 
>>> end) are almost all selected.  I have seen some where the 90 pF 'base' cap 
>>> is also of that type, just considerably larger.
>>> 
>>> If there is Black paint on the end 'outboard' of the wire, it's an NP0.  If 
>>> another color outside the wires, it's a T/C type.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately there are several coding systems so it's a kinda 'guess' or 
>>> 'most likely' process.
>>> 
>>> IS there a paint daub on one end??
>>> 
>>> 73, Garey - K4OAH
>>> Glen Allen, VA
>>> 
>>> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
>>> and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
>>> <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Eddy Swynar wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> Well, the PTO went back to its nasty old habit of "...wobbulating" in very 
>>>> short order after I *thought* that I'd remedied it (per note below)---and 
>>>> so I carted the T-4X upstairs to our kitchen table (yes-yes, right AFTER 
>>>> the XYL left to do some shopping this afternoon!)...
>>>> 
>>>> AMAZING the effect of some good ol' natural sunlight upon things: I could 
>>>> plainly see that the solder joint of the white tubular capacitor was SO 
>>>> bad, that I extricated the thing from the pc board after just two 
>>>> "wiggles" with my finger!!! (and this AFTER my supposed "repair 
>>>> downstairs!). I immediately applied heat AND fresh solder after affixing 
>>>> the lead to a small section of wire that was still protruding(!) past the 
>>>> board...
>>>> 
>>>> I then fired-up the rig, listening to its signal on a nearby Heathkit 
>>>> SB-301---and so far, SO GOOD...
>>>> 
>>>> Naturally I'm going to leave everything atop the table for as long as the 
>>>> XYL is off doing errands, & will re-visit it for periodic tests in the 
>>>> next coupla hours. I hesitate to express any "EUREKA!" cries for the 
>>>> moment, because I've been "fooled" so very many times before (as have a 
>>>> LOT of folks with the same issue!).
>>>> 
>>>> Still, in all, I think that one lesson that this has all DEFINITELY taught 
>>>> me is this: SUSPECT ANY & ALL SOLDER JOINTS ON THAT PTO PC FIRST!!! It 
>>>> seems that "...less than stellar" connections from the factory have a 
>>>> lifespan of some 40 years, or so, & then "...anything goes".
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, the small white tubular cap, which I am *assuming* is one of those 
>>>> "installed at point of assembly" components, has a hollow body with three 
>>>> dots of paint across its length, i.e.---starting at the middle---orange - 
>>>> orange - black. I'll have to check one of my older HANDBOOKS to de-cypher 
>>>> its actual value, but I'm wondering if it might be the same as those in 
>>>> others...?
>>>> 
>>>> ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>>> 
>> 


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