On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:26:03 +0200
Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM Boris Brezillon
> <boris.brezil...@bootlin.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:30:26 +0200
> > Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >  
> > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:41:14AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:33:14 +0200
> > > > Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:09:31AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> > > > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:44:43 +0200
> > > > > > Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 09:55:08AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> > > > > > > > Hi Daniel,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:57:43 +0200
> > > > > > > > Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:40:45AM +0200, Boris Brezillon 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:  
> > > > > > > > > > The HVS block is supposed to fill the pixelvalve FIFOs fast 
> > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > meet the requested framerate. The problem is, the HVS and 
> > > > > > > > > > memory bus
> > > > > > > > > > bandwidths are limited, and if we don't take these 
> > > > > > > > > > limitations into
> > > > > > > > > > account we might end up with HVS underflow errors.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This patch is trying to model the per-plane HVS and memory 
> > > > > > > > > > bus bandwidth
> > > > > > > > > > consumption and take a decision at atomic_check() time 
> > > > > > > > > > whether the
> > > > > > > > > > estimated load will fit in the HVS and membus budget.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Note that we take an extra margin on the memory bus 
> > > > > > > > > > consumption to let
> > > > > > > > > > the system run smoothly when other blocks are doing heavy 
> > > > > > > > > > use of the
> > > > > > > > > > memory bus. Same goes for the HVS limit, except the margin 
> > > > > > > > > > is smaller in
> > > > > > > > > > this case, since the HVS is not used by external components.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezil...@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > This logic has been validated using a simple shell script 
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > some instrumentation in the VC4 driver:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - capture underflow errors at the HVS level and expose a 
> > > > > > > > > > debugfs file
> > > > > > > > > >   reporting those errors
> > > > > > > > > > - add debugfs files to expose when atomic_check fails 
> > > > > > > > > > because of the
> > > > > > > > > >   HVS or membus load limitation or when it fails for other 
> > > > > > > > > > reasons
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The branch containing those modification is available here 
> > > > > > > > > > [1], and the
> > > > > > > > > > script (which is internally using modetest) is here [2] 
> > > > > > > > > > (please note
> > > > > > > > > > that I'm bad at writing shell scripts :-)).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Note that those modification tend to over-estimate the 
> > > > > > > > > > load, and thus
> > > > > > > > > > reject setups that might have previously worked, so we 
> > > > > > > > > > might want to
> > > > > > > > > > adjust the limits to avoid that.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [1]https://github.com/bbrezillon/linux/tree/vc4/hvs-bandwidth-eval
> > > > > > > > > > [2]https://github.com/bbrezillon/vc4-hvs-bandwidth-test  
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any interest in using igt to test this stuff? We have at 
> > > > > > > > > least a bunch of
> > > > > > > > > tests already in there that try all kinds of plane setups. 
> > > > > > > > > And we use
> > > > > > > > > those to hunt for underruns on i915 hw.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wrt underrun reporting: On i915 we just dump them into dmesg 
> > > > > > > > > at the error
> > > > > > > > > level, using DRM_ERROR,  
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are you masking the underrun interrupt after it's been 
> > > > > > > > reported? If we
> > > > > > > > don't do that on VC4 we just end up flooding the kernel-log 
> > > > > > > > buffer until
> > > > > > > > someone comes and update the config.  
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah we do that too. Rule is that a full modeset will clear any 
> > > > > > > underrun
> > > > > > > masking (so tests need to make sure they start with a modeset, or 
> > > > > > > it'll be
> > > > > > > for nothing).
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > plus a tracepoint. See e.g.
> > > > > > > > > intel_pch_fifo_underrun_irq_handler(). If there's interest we 
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > perhaps extract this into something common, similar to what 
> > > > > > > > > was done with
> > > > > > > > > crc support already.
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm not a big fan of hardcoded trace points in general (because 
> > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > whole "it's part of the stable ABI" thing), and in this case, 
> > > > > > > > making the
> > > > > > > > tracepoint generic sounds even more risky to me. Indeed, how 
> > > > > > > > can we know
> > > > > > > > about all the HW specific bits one might want to expose. For 
> > > > > > > > instance,
> > > > > > > > I see the intel underrun tracepoint exposes a struct with a 
> > > > > > > > frame and
> > > > > > > > scanline field, and AFAICT, we don't have such information in 
> > > > > > > > the VC4
> > > > > > > > case.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any opinion on that?  
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's only abi if you're unlucky. If it's just for debugging and
> > > > > > > validation, you can change it again. Tbh, no idea why we even 
> > > > > > > have these
> > > > > > > tracepoints, they're fairly useless imo. CI only relies upon the 
> > > > > > > dmesg
> > > > > > > output. Maybe run git blame and ask the original author, we can 
> > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > update them to suit our needs.  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, I think I'll go for a generic debugfs entry that returns true
> > > > > > when an underrun error happened since the last modeset, false 
> > > > > > otherwise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Next question is: should I attach the underrun status to the 
> > > > > > drm_device
> > > > > > or have one per CRTC? In my case, I only care about the "has an
> > > > > > underrun error occurred on any of the active CRTC" case, so I'd 
> > > > > > vote for
> > > > > > a per-device underrun status.  
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah probably good enough. For our CI all we care about is the 
> > > > > warn/error
> > > > > level dmesg output. Anything at that level is considered a CI 
> > > > > failure.  
> > > >
> > > > So igt is grepping dmesg to detect when an underrun happens?  
> > >
> > > No, but the CI runner is also observing dmesg. Anything in there at
> > > warning or higher level is considered a failure.  
> >
> > Eric, do you do the same when you launch the IGT testsuite?
> >  
> > >  
> > > > > What do you need the debugfs file for?  
> > > >
> > > > I just thought having a debugfs file to expose the underrun information
> > > > would be cleaner than having to grep in dmesg to detect such failures.  
> > >
> > > The issue is that you want to detect underruns everywhere, not just in the
> > > specific tests you're checking for it. Anything that does a modeset could
> > > cause an underrun (at least we've managed to do so pretty much everywhere
> > > on i915 hw, if you misprogram is sufficiently).  
> >
> > In my specific case, I want to have the IGT test check the underrun
> > value while the test is being executed so that I know which exact
> > configuration triggers the underrun situation. At least that's how I
> > did to adjust/debug the HVS load tracking code. Maybe it's not really a
> > problem when all we do is tracking regressions.  
> 
> Ok, that makes sense, and explains why you want the overall underrun
> counter exposed in debugfs.

Just one tiny detail which is not exactly related to this discussion
but I thought I'd mention it here: underrun is actually not a counter,
it's just a boolean. I used an atomic_t type to avoid having to add a
spinlock to protect the variable (the variable is modified from
an interrupt context and read from a non-atomic context). So, the
acceptable values for underrun are currently 0 or 1. I can make it a
counter if required.

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