On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 16-12-2019 10:30, Lee Jones wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which use a Crystal Cove PMIC, yet the LCD is connected
> > > > > > > > > > > to the SoC/LPSS
> > > > > > > > > > > PWM controller (and the VBT correctly indicates this), so
> > > > > > > > > > > here our old
> > > > > > > > > > > heuristics fail.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Since only the i915 driver has access to the VBT, this
> > > > > > > > > > > commit renames
> > > > > > > > > > > the "pwm_backlight" lookup entries for the Crystal Cove
> > > > > > > > > > > PMIC's PWM
> > > > > > > > > > > controller to "pwm_pmic_backlight" so that the i915
> > > > > > > > > > > driver can do a
> > > > > > > > > > > pwm_get() for the right controller depending on the VBT
> > > > > > > > > > > bit, instead of
> > > > > > > > > > > the i915 driver relying on a "pwm_backlight" lookup
> > > > > > > > > > > getting registered
> > > > > > > > > > > which magically points to the right controller.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdego...@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > drivers/mfd/intel_soc_pmic_core.c | 2 +-
> > > > > > > > > > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For my own reference:
> > > > > > > > > > Acked-for-MFD-by: Lee Jones <lee.jo...@linaro.org>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As mentioned in the cover-letter, to avoid breaking
> > > > > > > > > bi-sectability
> > > > > > > > > as well as to avoid breaking the intel-gfx CI we need to
> > > > > > > > > merge this series
> > > > > > > > > in one go through one tree. Specifically through the
> > > > > > > > > drm-intel tree.
> > > > > > > > > Is that ok with you ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If this is ok with you, then you do not have to do anything,
> > > > > > > > > I will just push
> > > > > > > > > the entire series to drm-intel.
> > > > > > > > > drivers/mfd/intel_soc_pmic_core.c
> > > > > > > > > does not see much changes so I do not expect this to lead to
> > > > > > > > > any conflicts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's fine, so long as a minimal immutable pull-request is
> > > > > > > > provided.
> > > > > > > > Whether it's pulled or not will depend on a number of factors,
> > > > > > > > but it
> > > > > > > > needs to be an option.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The way the drm subsys works that is not really a readily
> > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > option. The struct definition which this patch changes a single
> > > > > > > line in
> > > > > > > has not been touched since 2015-06-26 so I really doubt we will
> > > > > > > get a
> > > > > > > conflict from this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Always with the exceptions ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OOI, why does this *have* to go through the DRM tree?
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch renames the name used to lookup the pwm controller from
> > > > > "pwm_backlight" to "pwm_pmic_backlight" because there are 2 possible
> > > > > pwm controllers which may be used, one in the SoC itself and one
> > > > > in the PMIC. Which controller should be used is described in a table
> > > > > in the Video BIOS, so another part of this series adds this code to
> > > > > the i915 driver:
> > > > >
> > > > > - panel->backlight.pwm = pwm_get(dev->dev, "pwm_backlight");
> > > > > + /* Get the right PWM chip for DSI backlight according to VBT */
> > > > > + if (dev_priv->vbt.dsi.config->pwm_blc == PPS_BLC_PMIC) {
> > > > > + panel->backlight.pwm = pwm_get(dev->dev,
> > > > > "pwm_pmic_backlight");
> > > > > + desc = "PMIC";
> > > > > + } else {
> > > > > + panel->backlight.pwm = pwm_get(dev->dev,
> > > > > "pwm_soc_backlight");
> > > > > + desc = "SoC";
> > > > > + }
> > > > >
> > > > > So both not to break bisectability, but also so as to not break the
> > > > > extensive
> > > > > CI system which is used to test the i915 driver we need the MFD
> > > > > change doing
> > > > > the rename to go upstrream through the same tree as the i915 change.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have even considered just squashing the 2 commits together as
> > > > > having only 1
> > > > > present, but not the other breaks stuff left and right.
> > > >
> > > > That doesn't answer the question.
> > > >
> > > > Why do they all *have* to go in via the DRM tree specifically?
> > >
> > > 1. As explained these chanegs need to stay together
> > > 2. This change is primarily a drm/i915 change. Also the i915 code sees
> > > lots
> > > of changes every cycle, where as the change to the mfd code touches a
> > > block
> > > of code which has not been touched since 2015-06-26, so the chance of
> > > conflicts
> > > is much bigger if this goes on through another tree.
> > >
> > > I honestly do not see the problem here? Let me reverse the question why
> > > should this
> > > NOT go in through the drm tree?
> >
> > There isn't a problem with *this* patch. I could say, "sure, take it"
> > and the chances are everything could be fine from a technical
> > perspective.
> >
> > However, I'm taking exception to the fact you think this series is
> > *special* enough to warrant circumventing the usual way in which we
> > usually work when dealing with cross-subsystem patch-sets. Something
> > I personally deal with a lot due to the inherent hierarchical nature
> > of Multi-Functional Devices.
> >
> > I'm on the fence on this one. Due to the circumstances surrounding
> > *this* patch alone, it would be so much easier (for both of us!) to
> > just Ack the patch and hope no further changes occur which could
> > potentially cause someone else (you, me, Linus) more work later on.
> > However, I'm very keen to prevent setting a precedent for this kind of
> > action, as it's clearly not the right path to take in a vast majority
> > of cases.
> >
> > > 1. As explained these chanegs need to stay together
> >
> > The patch-set would stay together regardless. That's the point of an
> > immutable branch, it can be taken in by all relevant parties and Git
> > will just do-the-right-thing.
> >
> > > 2. This change is primarily a drm/i915 change. Also the i915 code sees
> > > lots
> > > of changes every cycle, where as the change to the mfd code touches a
> > > block
> > > of code which has not been touched since 2015-06-26, so the chance of
> > > conflicts
> > > is much bigger if this goes on through another tree.
> >
> > This too is irrelevant, since the patch-set could/would go though
> > both/all trees simultaneously. The way in which we normally work with
> > other subsystems doesn't involve a gamble over which subsystem is most
> > likely going to be affected by a merge conflict as you suggest, it
> > eradicates conflicts for all.
>
> I'm well aware of using immutable branches and that those are
> often used for patch-set's which touch multiple subsystems. But
> although immutable branches are used often they are about as often
> not used for various reasons, with people choosing to just merge
> through a single tree.
> > I'm not saying "no" by the way. I just want to find out your
> > reasons/motivation as to why you're insisting this needs go through
> > a) a specific tree and b) just one tree. Questions which I am yet to
> > see a compelling answer.
>
> Doing immutable branches assumes that there is a base point,
> e.g. 5.5-rc1 where the immutable branch can then be based on and
> that the branch can then be merged without issues into both subsystems.
>
> drm is constantly evolving to deal with and mostly catch up with new
> hardware as both GPUs and display-pipelines are evolving quite rapidly
> atm drm-intel-next has about 400 commits on top of 5.5-rc1 so for an
> immutable branch I can either base it on drm-intel-next which
> violates your request for a clean minimal branch to merge; or I can
> base it on 5.5-rc1 which leads to a big chance of problems when
> merging it given to large amount of churn in drm-intel-next.
This is a *slightly* more compelling reason than the ones you've
previously provided.
> So instead of the normal case of 2 subsystems seeing some changes
> on both side the case we have here is a part of a file which has
> not changed since 2015-06-26 in one subsys (and changing only
> a single line there!) and OTOH we have bigger changes to a subsys
> which see 400 patches land in the first week since rc1 .
This is not.
> I hope that you agree that in this case given the large amount of
> churn in drm-intel-next it makes since to just straight forward
> apply these patches on top of drm-intel-next.
I have Acked this patch, but remember *this* is the exception rather
than the rule. If/when we have a case where a contributor works
cross-subsystem with DRM and the code/file adapted is live (more
likely to change), I will have to insist on an immutable branch
strategy. DRM will have to deal with that appropriately.
--
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
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