On Wed, 2026-02-11 at 12:52 +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> 
> Yes, many people assume "list widely used in kernel" implies "list is a
> good idea". Unfortunately it is not the case.
> 
> > > This applies to the red/black tree too, by the way.
> > 
> > Can't fully follow, you mean that RB trees are supposedly overused,
> > too?
> 
> When I first suggested adding red/black tree abstractions in Rust
> several years ago I was told by Greg that I couldn't do it because the
> red/black tree was deprecated and no new users should be added.

Do you have a link or sth?

First time in my life that I hear that RB trees shouldn't be used. If
something is deprecated for good one would hope that's obvious.

What's the justification? Should everyone use the B-Tree?
RB trees are super widely used in CS. 

P.

> 
> Later I found that this was more of a not-written-down recommendation
> than a full deprecation, and since Rust Binder has codepaths where an
> ENOMEM failure path is unacceptable for the map, we did end up adding a
> Rust rb tree abstraction after all. But this is where I first heard of
> this issue with lists and rb trees.
> 
> Alice

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