On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, D. Hageman wrote:
> 
> >> I think spam filtering for dri-devel and dri-users would be a good
> >> solution -- IMO, that would be better than moderation.  For dri-patches,
> >> the Reply-To is dri-devel.  I'd rather have just commit messages and
> >> nothing else on dri-patches.  Any comments/replies to specific patches, or
> >> posts dealing with CVS should go to dri-devel anyway.  That's why I
> >> suggested limiting just dri-patches to sourceforge addresses.
> >
> >I have only been glancing at this thread, but basically it comes down to 
> >this - If the spam bothers you that much setup spam filtering on your 
> >personal machine and be done with it.  We waste more time and bandwidth 
> >talking about what "should" be done (with the list) then actually doing 
> >what really "should" be done (with dri).  Just my thoughts ...
> 
> As stated in my previous mail, I do use spamassassin, and as such 
> I do not have a problem with spam.  If you're not interested in 
> the discussion on despamming, then simply hit DEL on the messages 
> that do not interest you, and you'll lose no time at all. If 
> other people wish to discuss it, they can, and will.
> 
> Freedom of speech.

Please - what one minute here!

I hold the freedom of speech very close to my heart for specific reasons I 
won't go into.  What I wrote above in no way indicates that I want such a 
freedom restricted or otherwise removed.

What I did write above is an indication of my insight into the problem:
  
1) Moderating a list restricts the flow of information (thus in some way 
can be viewed as a restriction of speech ... see above).

2) Limiting the mailing list interaction via mail addresses limits the 
flow of information (thus in some way can be viewed as a restriction of 
speech ... see above).

3) Implementing a mailing list wide spam filter can remove potentially 
beneficial e-mails (thus in some way can be viewed as a restriction of 
speech ... see above  Besides I know it will never happen unless 
we take the lists off of sourceforge and host them else where ... or so 
the little birds tell me). 

Stating that ... too much energy has already been wasted ... on "spinning 
wheels".

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