On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, khaqq wrote:

> I had lockups a few months ago with my FireGL8800 with X/DRI, I gave up trying
> to find a stable X/DRI combination after trying 3 X versions and about 20 DRI
> snapshots. I'm *not* saying DRI isn't good, it used to work perfectly on my 
> 7500.
> But the R200 was never stable here (I've had it for ~6 months now).

I have to agree with you. I complained about the r200 driver some months
ago. I was told to try to track down the time when the instability of the
r200 driver started (some develorers suggested the end of
September, 2004).Unfortunately, I wasn't able to compile older CVS
snapshots on my debian sid system. It's very strange, I don't think that
X.org CVS was broken for months... (I tried compiling snapshots from
2004.08.31 to 2004.11.30 without any success...)

> I'm using ATI-drivers atm and I've not seen a single crash with those. If 
> debug logs are
> interesting to you, or to any X/DRI developpers, I'll go back to DRI and try 
> to
> generate them if you tell me how. I'm happy to say my PC doesn't seem to have
> any hardware problem (as it was suggested on dri-devel) since going to 
> ati-drivers
> solved *all* the stability  issues I had with X+DRI (and before switching from
> the 7500 to the 8800, it was stable ; and it was still stable in 3D apps in 
> windows
> (yuck) after the switch).
> Maybe if all users seeing crashes generated a debug log and put it online for 
> all DRI
> developpers to see, finding a common denominator would be easier...

I use Descent3 for testing. With recent snapshots it's getting harder to
crash the game. Some months ago a simple X restart was enough to crash
Descent3 (and of course the X server) in a few seconds. Nowadays I have
to switch to the microwave gun and fire some dozen waves to crash X. It's
100% reproducible, so I offered my help to create gdb backtraces, but one
of the DRI developers (Michael Daenzer, if I remember correctly) pointed
out that gdb backtraces won't help diagnosing GPU lockups.

  Geller Sandor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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