Alex,
    Thanks for answering my questions.  Sorry I'm a little slow to respond.  I can usually only work on this when everyone in the house is asleep. (That doesn't come that often..)

You'd probably want to configure the MC in the DDX (xf86-video-ati)
although you may have to coordinate with the drm if things like the
memory maps change.  You shouldn't need to mess with the 3D driver
(mesa).  The DDX sets up the card, sets modes and handles 2D accel and
overlays.  The drm provides secure access to the card in the kernel
for things like DMA and command submission.  The 3D mesa driver
translates OpenGL to card specific commands and then feeds the
commands to the drm.

I greped through a copy of xf86-video-ati that I checked out of git. It seems that R300_MC_IND_INDEX is only manipulated in RADEONInitDispBandwidth.  Are there some other places I am missing?

(Or is there something else I should be looking for?)  


I shouldn't be too hard to add support for the indirect MC regs to
radeontool or another dumper.  The indirect MC regs are accessed via
the MC index reg at MMIO offset 0x01F8 and the MC data reg at MMIO
offset 0x01FC.  You specify the MC reg you want in the MC index reg
and then you can read/write to that reg via the MC data reg.  bits 5:0
of the MC index reg specify the MC reg.  bit 8 is the write enable
bit.  You should be able to use the INPLL/OUTPLL code in the radeon
DDX as a model.  the only difference is the PLL write enable bit is 7
rather than 8.  The PCIE regs are indexed as well IIRC, but once
again, I'm not too familiar with them.

Alright, so I took the radeontool and tried to make this happen.

First the interesting things:

fglrx (8.24.8)
--------------------------
RADEON_MC_AGP_LOCATION=5bff5800
RADEON_MC_FB_LOCATION=57ff4800
RADEON_MC_STATUS=00080001
R300_MC_INIT_MISC_LAT_TIMER=f0001100

xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.8.0-1
-----------------------
RADEON_MC_AGP_LOCATION=ffffffc0
RADEON_MC_FB_LOCATION=57ff4800
RADEON_MC_STATUS=00090005
R300_MC_INIT_MISC_LAT_TIMER=f0000000

Where are the defines that I can use to interpret these results?
..

When I tried to read the MC regs as you specified above, I run into
some problems.

Two Problems:
    1) If write the index, and then read it back, it is as if
       somebody zeroed bits 3:1 of the value that I wrote.

    2) All of the reads to R300_MC_IND_DATA return "0".

Questions:
    1) Am I doing anything obviously wrong?  (Code below)
    2) Is a value of "0" reasonable for these registers?

NOTE: I have another laptop w/ATI that IS supported by the DRIdrivers.  I'm gonna try to run the dumper on that an see if the
results are different. (This should help me figure out if my radentool code is bad, or the XPRESS really does set everything to zero..)

Here's my code (Based on PLLIN /OUT as you suggested):

"
#define R300_MC_IND_INDEX                   0x01f8
#       define R300_MC_IND_ADDR_MASK        0x3f
#define R300_MC_IND_DATA                    0x01fc


#define OUTREG8(offset, val)  *(volatile unsigned char *)(((unsigned char*)(radeon_cntl_mem)) + (offset)) = (val)
#define INREG(offset)         *(volatile unsigned long *)(void *)(((unsigned char*)(radeon_cntl_mem)) + (offset))

unsigned int RADEONINMC(int addr)
{
  unsigned int data;

  OUTREG8(R300_MC_IND_INDEX, (addr & R300_MC_IND_ADDR_MASK));
  data = "">
  printf("Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): %lx ", INREG(R300_MC_IND_INDEX));

  return data;
}

void radeon_memory_controller(void)
{
  unsigned int i;
    for (i=0;i<=0x3f;i++)
      {
    printf("Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): %x ", i);
    printf("R300_MC_IND_DATA: %x\n", RADEONINMC(i));
      }
}


Output:
"
....
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 0 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 0 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 1 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 1 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 2 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 0 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 3 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 1 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 4 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 0 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 5 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 1 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 6 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 0 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 7 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 1 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 8 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 8 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 9 Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 9 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): a Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 8 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): b Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 9 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): c Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 8 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): d Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 9 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
Index(written to R300_MC_IND_INDEX): e Index(Read from R300_MC_IND_INDEX): 8 R300_MC_IND_DATA: 0
....
"

>
> Is there an overview of how radeons are laid out?  I've looks through some
> of the DRI documentation (
> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Documentation), but none
> seem to reference the radeon specifically.

what do you mean by "laid out"? :)

most of the configuration is done via MMIO and things like 2D and 3D
are done via the command processor which is basically a buffer you
feed commands to.


Sorry.  I wasn't clear.  I am really trying to figure out how the MC fits in.

What is it responsible for?  The speed of the memory access?  Managing where textures live? (On card memory?  In system memory?) 

Also, in my BIOS, I can reserve system memory for the graphics card. How does the driver know about it/what does it do with the information? 

(ex: The kernel sees the space is reserved by the BIOS, so it reserves it as well, the ATI driver asks the kernel about the reserved space, and then uses it..)

What changes if I adjust that value?

Thanks for the answers,
Cheers,
--Phil
 

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