benjamin...@viatech.com wrote:
> Jerome,
> 
> This DRM code is kernel space part of a matching Xorg driver that we are
> going thru final review to be submitted to xorg. The DRM is frozen but
> the user space code needs to fix a few bugs reported by our QA team.
> Prior version of xorg driver such as the one at
> http://linux.via.com.tw/support/beginDownload.action?eleid=17&fid=381
> doesn't use DRM. But the upcoming one does.
> 
Actually, there are a lot (too much even) DDX :
- The VIA driver from linux.via.com.tw which is a stripped down version
of another VIA driver with closed source binary only part from viaarena.com
- openchrome
- possibly unichrome, but I'm not sure it caught up with Chrome9 support.
There is certainly room for improvement here, and stopping duplicated
work would certainly help.

However, there is no 3D driver for Chrome9 and VIA won't opensource the
existing one because of third party code licensing issue. Neither VIA
nor openchrome will start a driver on its own, because there is simply
not enough manpower on either side to get this huge task done. VIA said
the pixel shader documentation will be available publicly soon, and I
certainly believe them because this document is already available to
some people under NDA, and this is exactly how it was done with the
previous doc VIA released. The issue here is to gather enough workforce.
If all interested parties team up around one publicly developed Chrome9
3D driver, even if the task is huge, it can probably be done.

Regards,
Xavier


> Thanks,
> 
> Benjamin Pan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome Glisse [mailto:gli...@freedesktop.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:44 AM
> To: Harald Welte
> Cc: Dave Airlie; Benjamin Pan (Fremont); Richard Lee; gre...@suse.de;
> Bruce Chang; Joseph Chan; dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Patch 0/3] Resubmit VIA Chrome9 DRM via_chrome9 for
> upstream
> 
> On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 13:37 +0200, Harald Welte wrote:
> [...]
>> So far I was not aware that there is an absolute precondition of
> existing 3D FOSS
>> userspace code to get a DRM driver merged.  Yes, we all want it.  But
> is it a strong
>> requirement?
> 
> It's hard to review if the interface is sane without knowing what 
> userspace might need or not.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jerome Glisse
> 
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