On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 11:52 +0800, brucech...@via.com.tw wrote: > Hello All: > I understand the requirement. If we submitted for mainline when > everything is ready, I believe it takes very long time. Some of you might > know that VIA has been trying to support community by releasing doc, source > and submit for upstream step by step. As Harald point out, the docs has been > hosted in x.org, 2D source code has been released in public domain. > We are now preparing our new 2D source which need DRM support for the 3D > HW acceleration for EXA and will release it in public domain within 1 month > too. I believe it can be a good start for the DRM verification. > It's my understanding community people always welcome people to > contribute to community. VIA is starting and is on the way to contribute for > better user experience. Maybe VIA is not doing perfect yet now, but I hope we > can be encouraged for more contribution to the community. VIA will base on > the feedback and keep improving. Please give us time and please don't keep > VIA away from the openning way.
I appreciate the efforts that VIA is making towards supporting their customers. I have had users asking me for hardware acceleration with VIA chips in FreeBSD for a while now. Many users will be satisfied with a good hardware accelerated 2D solution. A 3D driver is certainly a nice feature to have and I wonder if it might be possible for VIA to release partial source code for their 3D driver that doesn't include the 3rd party code. That might at least give a good starting point for a complete open driver. I realize that the 3rd party code might be too invasive for that to be possible. I would hope that VIA will be focusing it's resources on providing accurate documentation and hopefully code for currently shipping and future chips. It is difficult with limited resources to go back and change the past. robert. > Thanks and Best Regards > ================================================= > Bruce C. Chang(張祖明) > VIA Technologies, Inc. > Address: 1F, 531, Chung-Cheng Road, Hsin-Tien, 231 Taipei > Tel: +886-2-22185452 Ext 7323 > Mobile: +886-968343824 > Fax: +886-2-22186282 > Skype: Bruce.C.Chang > Email: brucech...@via.com.tw > > > -----Original Message----- > From: zaj...@gmail.com [mailto:zaj...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:23 AM > To: Uros Nedic > Cc: Harald Welte; dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Richard Lee; > gre...@suse.de; Bruce Chang; Joseph Chan; Benjamin Pan (Fremont) > Subject: Re: [Patch 0/3] Resubmit VIA Chrome9 DRM via_chrome9 for upstream > > > W dniu 19 lipca 2009 18:57 uytkownik Uros Nedic <ur...@live.com> napisa: > > If there are small amount of people with enough knowledge to write > > device drivers, let AMD, VIA, Intel and others make some small one > > week school and call people from this community to teach them how to > > do that. This way total cost of writing drivers will be significantly > > lower (each company should donate some money for this school, and to > > teach community members) and for return people from community will be > > educated to do that. It is win-win position - companies get drivers, > > community gets knowledge. > > > > I'm one of the first who would like to write drivers as > > part of my practice in programming. It is not up to me do decide how > > my programmer skills are, but I have MSc in Telecommunications > > Engineering, and also I had many hardware/software oriented exams. I > > believe for myself that I'm skilled programmer but I'm lacking of > > knowledge about X Window System, DRI, Gallium3D. To be worse I cannot > > find any satisfying literature on the Net to start learning. I'm not > > talking about some 'Tutorials' or 'Introductions' but about some > > documents where I could understand deeply how it is organized and how > > to write high quality drivers. > > I totally agree. Drivers development is really undocumented :/ > > I have problems understanding how DDX (modesetting) driver works, and most > answers I have to get from IRC, not Google. I'm totaly scared of any 3D or > even Xv programming. Add the fact that code also lacks documentation and it's > extremly hard for some newbie to dig into that. > > Would be great if someone could document all that, but it seems noone is > interested in that. Ppl how already understand that focus on coding, not > documenting :/ > -- Robert Noland <rnol...@2hip.net> 2Hip Networks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge -- _______________________________________________ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
