On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Jesse Barnes <jbar...@virtuousgeek.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:32:32 +0100 >> Ingo Molnar <mi...@elte.hu> wrote: >>> Nobody has reacted to my related boot hang bugreport yet - and it's >>> detailed and fully reproducible (so i can test any proposed fixes as >>> well in short order). I.e. my limited testing has triggered two >>> separate bugs in the same driver - and this will show up in -rc7. >>> >>> It might be all OK and no-one else will see trouble. Or past patterns >>> might repeat themselves and i might simply be an early bird for >>> trouble to come. >>> >>> My (oft repeated) point is that adding new sub-features to existing >>> drivers is not what we do in late -rc's: there's simply not enough >>> time to shake out bugs/regressions in them. >>> >>> We introduce new functionality to existing drivers in the merge >>> window - in the two weeks following a stable kernel's release. >> >> This is the .config issue right? It doesn't sound like the bug is new, >> you're just seeing now it because of the way you run tests. It shouldn't >> affect any more or fewer users than it did before, and reverting the "move >> radeon KMS out of staging" won't fix the bug at all or prevent anyone from >> seeing it. People using KMS will still use KMS and people without it >> won't, [...] > > I think you are missing my point. My point is very simple: existing non-KMS > users of CONFIG_DRM_RADON=y (a pre-existing driver) might turn on the new > sub-feature (CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y), in the expectation that this is a safe > addition to his currently well-working driver. > > ( I have to confess i do that all the time for drivers that work well for me, > and if it pops up in a late -rc i sure expect it to be safe to enable. I > dont even read the help text most of the time - if the single-line summary > sounds useful i enable it. Especially if the Kconfig help entry says it's > safe with a new distro, it's not CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL, it's not marked > CONFIG_BROKEN, it's not in CONFIG_STAGING, etc. )
forget the people testing the rc kernels, what about people who will see this in the released kernel? David Lang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com -- _______________________________________________ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel