Bradley McLean wrote: > Below is the transcript of a committer's meeting held on #dspace at > irc.freenode.net at 16:00 GMT on June 17, 2009. > > We intend to hold the next meeting on #dspace June 24 at 20:00 GMT. > > You can see the upcoming (weekly) schedule as well as other DSpace > developer events at: > > http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=3mfp5qsv0kejvsbh558lmshujk%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York > > Anyone is welcome to attend. > > Meeting Summary: > > A lightly attended meeting ( it is transition to summertime! ) The > transcript is short enough to just read ... > > Transcript: > rrodgers: bradmc: is this committer time? [12:09pm] bradmc: Yes, it is, thanks, Richard. [12:10pm] bradmc: What topics should we discuss today? [12:10pm] mhwood: catobear: What happens to error messages now? Is the file empty? Does it log fatals but not errors? Does it log some errors, but not others that you know are occurring? [12:10pm] rrodgers: catobear: Hi, normally this is a good place for tech questions, but just now we are having an online meeting [12:10pm] bradmc: (we usually try to update on GSOC every time) [12:11pm] bradmc: We seem to be pretty lightly attended today. [12:11pm] mhwood: There are a fair number here but most are quiet. [12:11pm] rrodgers: catobear: Could you post to dspace-tech? or wait an hour or so? [12:12pm] rrodgers: Well then maybe we can have a quick meeting - not a bad thing [12:12pm] tdonohue: I will have to run 15-20mins early... but, I imagine updates on 1.6 would also be good... [12:12pm] bollini-web: Hi all, I'm here for hear the meeting's topics but I need to leave in less then 20 minutes... [12:12pm] rrodgers: OK - let me kill 2 birds.... [12:13pm] rrodgers: First, on GSOC - my student is having his last exam today, so I expect increased focus soon [12:13pm] mhwood: There was unfinished talk about how the social structure of DS2.0 development may currently differ from what we're used to. [12:13pm] rrodgers: I told him that the group felt DS2 was the place to concentrate. [12:14pm] rrodgers: Second, on 1.6 - unless I hear anything else within a few days, I'll post a straw man for Embargo, as we discussed [12:14pm] rrodgers: in order to focus thinking [12:15pm] rrodgers: I'm done [12:17pm] mhwood: 1.6 statistics: I see that a lot of material has been added to the wiki page. kshepherd: I owe you a response to an email. The lists have been quiet. [12:17pm] bradmc: mdiggory doesn't seem to be with us today; I don't know that we'll get to the social structure answers. My sense is that we need to orchestrate a hand-off from the JISC funded team to the DS (DS1) community, and then operate in the DS1 fashion. The JISC phase is ending. [12:18pm] bradmc: (That's all on DS2) [12:18pm] rrodgers: Seems like a reasonable strategy [12:19pm] catobear: rrodgers: Thanks for letting me know; I'll post again in an hour [12:20pm] bradmc: So, as with all handoffs or releases, there's a bit of a struggle to get to the right state for the handoff. That's still under debate. [12:20pm] mhwood: Orchestrate how? What's needed? [12:21pm] bradmc: A how-to-get started wiki page, an agreement to move communications into the DS1 lists and close the DS2 lists, and a baseline release tag. [12:22pm] bradmc: Then, a subsequent set of discussions in the merged community on what next, as well as any social changes (evolving from DS1) that are desired. [12:23pm] rrodgers: Indeed - in fact we may be looking at a 3-way merge with some Fedora stuff as well... [12:24pm] rrodgers: (primarily - I would assume - in the area of common services) [12:24pm] bradmc: rrodgers: Yes, although that seems like a subsequent conversation (just for clarity). [12:24pm] mhwood: Concurrently? Challenging. We can't work out a sequence, so we can deal with stuff pairwise? [12:24pm] rrodgers: bradmc: true, it's complicated enough now [12:26pm] • bradmc dons his DuraSpace hat [12:26pm] bradmc: We have two distinct communities (Dspace and Fedora) with their own governance, and we aren't going to change that immediately. We will help any efforts to move in that direction. [12:26pm] • bradmc takes off that hat [12:26pm] rrodgers: what's the view from Mt Olympus? [12:27pm] bradmc: So we should have DS1 and DS2 get their merged community issues sorted, then tackle the mix-and-match of components and tech with Fedora. [12:27pm] bradmc: Which should naturally lead to some ideas on how to organize those efforts. [12:27pm] mhwood: Modularity helps. Map out a minimal "spine" for the product with well-defined interfaces and let everything else be an add-on. [12:27pm] bradmc: mhwood: +1 [12:31pm] mhwood: DSpace/Fedora sharing effort probably ought to concentrate on DS2. [12:31pm] bradmc: I think both DSpace and Fedora are moving towards that modularity, which helps. For the record, Fedora is moving to Maven as well, so we'll potentially have a framework for cross or shared dependencies and models. [12:31pm] bradmc: That just scratches the surface of the problem, however. [12:32pm] bollini-web left the chat room. ("CGI:IRC") [12:33pm] rrodgers: Speaking of which - we should probably spend some (not here and now) trying to give Richard Jones some guidance on his SWORD questions [12:33pm] bradmc: I think there's a challenge of defining a migration from DS1.x forward. DS2 seems a likely candidate for bridging to a shared DSpace/Fedora environment, but I suspect there is a real challenge in bridging out of DS1 to anything. [12:33pm] rrodgers: some +time [12:33pm] mhwood: First: compare the ways that the two products aim to be modular. How difficult to harmonize *that*? Can we readily get to a state where they can just share (some) modules, or will we need adaptation layers? [12:34pm] bradmc: mhwood: Well, it could be done on a piecewise basis, at various APIs; or it may make more sense to get two sides to embrace a common component architecture. [12:35pm] bradmc: Personal bias: a very lightweight one. [12:35pm] bradmc: There has been some interest around OSGi on both sides lately, but not any clarity yet. [12:38pm] • mhwood adds to his reading list again. [12:40pm] bradmc: We seem to be slowing. Should we wrap up? [12:40pm] rrodgers: OK by me [12:40pm] mhwood: Apparently so, unless there are other topics? [12:42pm] bradmc: Thanks, folks. catobear, the floor is yours again [12:42pm] rrodgers: Bye all - thanks [12:42pm] mhwood: Thanks all.
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