Nate WY0X wrote: "what's this DR mode? Will it be useful to anyone right now?" 

I don't have the 880 (do have an 800), but from scanning some of the email 
lists, it appears the 80 and 880's DR mode has created some conflict with DPlus 
and routing, as if ICOM's designers ignored the steep growth in DPlus usage and 
did not take this Gateway add-on into account.

However, there is a workaround, as described in a note by Tim K6BIV (and 
referring to Larry WW6USA):

          A URcall of /???? will route traffic out the Gateway.


          Larry and I suggest a /DPLUS URcall be created and used within the DR 
mode. Since /DPLUS is not a real location it will NOT create another route to 
someplace you do not want to go.


But hopefully someone who really understands this will jump in and clarify.

Jim - K6XZ
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nate Duehr 
  To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] ID880H vs ID800H


  Woodrick, Ed wrote:

  > More refined is what I see from see, feel, touch, operating, and reading 
  > the manual. Have you done as much or are you just reporting on what you 
  > have heard on the mail lists.

  That's good. You're the first person to post that. There hasn't BEEN 
  any discussion here on the lists, just on-air rumors, that I've seen. 
  That's why I carefully said I don't have the new rigs.

  > The ID880 is DEFINITELY a radio that is more refined for D-STAR.
  > Better display of received callsign
  > Better DPRS support
  > More memory channels
  > New Repeater List memories
  > RX-CS key is one touch

  So are these things worth the additional $50 to you?

  > These are not debatable points.

  "Debatable" meaning "is it worth it"? You're attempting to be awfully 
  literal for a hobby.

  Who really cares?

  Anyway... My point was...

  A used 800H may be a STEAL if someone who's a "I must have the latest 
  and greatest" person sells one right now to upgrade to an 880 and you 
  cat get it $100 off from a new 880. There's nothing "wrong" with an 
  800H...

  No one who's a newbie should be scared off from a good "deal" on an 800, 
  now or in the future... they're a solid rig and work fine, even though 
  the official comparison chart attempts to insinuate LIGHTLY that things 
  like GPS don't really work. They work fine... GPS-A isn't a requirement 
  to play on GPS on D-STAR.

  > The ID880 Repeater list memories are not the same as the standard 
  > memories. So you get all of the functionality of the 800 plus the new 
  > functionality.

  Understand that. My understanding from talking to folks that have them, 
  is that the 1000 memories are complete frequency + callsign memories, 
  and the repeater memories as seen in the 800H that can hold ANY 
  callsign, no longer exist. Is that accurate? Could you elaborate?

  Also, what's this DR mode? Will it be useful to anyone right now, since 
  it's only available on the 880 (and possibly the 80?... again don't know 
  what it is or why I'd want to pay $50 for it... since you have an 880, 
  tell us.)

  Nate WY0X


  

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